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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2022 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just trying to set the record straight. My opinion was formed over watching every race this season. You have an opinion formed by reading biased articles on the internet. Bautista is a better racer than his Ducati counterparts and that is the reason he is running away with the Championship (and Rinaldi is not.) Bautista is good enough to exploit the obvious power/electronics advantages of Ducati and combined with his diminutive size, it has been an absolute advantage. He is not the best racer in the paddock. Anyone saying that is speaking out of ignorance.

I have made many points to support my stance, but I think the most obvious one is common sense. A 37 year old racer that has made his reputation as being a crasher and not won a darn thing in 15 years is NOT going to beat Toprak in the prime of his racing career unless there are other factors at play....and the that factor being the motorcycle he has been riding.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2022 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Biased" only in that you don't agree with them.

I'd point out that Josh Hayes was in his FORTIES when he was destroying everyone in MotoAmerica. Nolan Ryan was throwing pitches at nearly 100mph in his forties (admittedly he threw OVER 100mph when he was younger).

Age is just a number.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2022 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No I don't agree with them. If he is such a great racer then what happened in 2020 and 2021 when he was on the Honda and managed all of three third place finishes in two entire seasons. He finished 9th and 10th in the standings, respectively. So he went from a mid-pack finisher on the Honda to running away with the title on the Ducati in 2022..and at the same time beating the best Superbike racer on the planet in his prime. I don't think his skills improved miraculously, so what are you left with? The motorcycle.

I am not saying Bautista is a terrible racer by any stretch, but he would not have won with any other manufacturer.

PS, WSBK is a whole different animal compared to Motoamerica. You should watch it sometime so you can see for yourself.
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Mog
Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2022 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is there any racing, other than hill climb, that is using the New (-ish) Buell 1190 machines, especially any road racing?

I think Geoff May have privateered his EBR 1190 but I do not know if he is doing anything other than Honda in Moto America super bike in 2022.

I have resisted pulling the trigger on a new Buell Hammerhead and want to know what plans the maker has.
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2022 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Toprak put in an amazing weekend, but Bautista had an amazing year. He demonstrated the same speed he'd shown when he first rode the Ducati in WSBK three years ago but has matured as a rider and didn't crash as often (indeed... his only crash this year wasn't even his fault).

For years there were two things you could count on: A Spaniard would win the MotoGP World Championship (usually Marc Marquez) and a Brit would win the WSBK Championship (usually Jonny Rea). These past two years we've had first a French, then an Italian MotoGP champion, and in WSBK we had a Turkish and then a Spanish champion. Good times!

Apparently Ducati is eager to see Danilo Petrucci return to MotoAmerica as they still haven't won that series...
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2022 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bau didn't crash because his motorcycle allowed him to not have to take much risk. He could make up time and/or pass his opponents on the straights. The "maturation" you cite means only he started to realize and take advantage of the Ducati's performance advantage. That being said, it is an accomplishment to be as consistent as he was this year, no matter what. In this respect, he deserves the Championship.

Meanwhile, his opponents were forced to take the exact opposite approach--ride the razors edge in hopes of gapping the Ducati enough so they had a margin at the end of the straight. This caused them to either make mistakes and/or burn up their tires.

I just learned that Toprak got the vast majority of his wins in the 10 lap Superpole races. Bautista got the nearly all his wins in the feature length races. So the fastest rider was Toprak, until the inevitable fact he was losing .2-.3 tenths a lap on the straights caught up to him in the longer races. And of course Toprak's tires were gone by the 2nd half of the long races because Toprak had to offset the Ducati's speed advantage in the twisty parts of the track.

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