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Simond
Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Richard Cooper seems to manage ok.
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 06:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Richard Cooper seems to manage ok.

Haslam isn't exactly a giant either, so I think it is just an excuse by Toni Elias to cover up for his lack of pace. I think we will see him retire at the end of this season somehow........

Quite apt that he and Capirossi took themselves out of the GP this weekend while squabboing over last place.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2011 - 07:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Carlos can clinch it this weekend!
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Trojan
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2011 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Carlos can clinch it this weekend!

Probably will now that Biaggi has ruled himself out of this round and probably the next as well with his mysterious foot injury. That just leaves Melandri with a slight mathmatical chance of catching Checa, but with a huge 74 pint gap I can't see it happening unless Checa crocks himself and fails to score for the rest of the year. Even then I think Melandri would have to win or place second in every race to win?
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2011 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That was some freak accident the Roman Emperor suffered. Something got kicked up by the bike in front of him in practice, and it went THROUGH his boot and did some considerable damage to his foot. Damn shame his title hopes had to be shot this way. He launched a pretty credible come back after a LOUSY start to the season, too.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2011 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh for crying out loud! Speed isn't showing these races here in the States until TUESDAY!! WTF?? There is no way I will not learn the winners of the two races by Tuesday. What the hell are they THINKING??

And please, don't suggest I watch the races on the WSBK website. That is blocked here in the States, probably due to contractual agreements with Speed.

Now I know how the AMA Racing Fans felt when Edmundson bolluxed up that contract the year he nearly ruined the series for good.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2011 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WSBK racing goes to Russia next year!

From a press release issued by Infront Motor Sports:

Agreement signed in Rome to bring FIM Superbike World Championship to Russia in 2012

Rome (Italy), 22 September 2011 – Exactly four months after the press conference held in Moscow in which Paolo Flammini, CEO of Infront Motor Sports and Alexander Yakhnich, CEO of YMS Promotion Ltd announced a partnership agreement, a contract was signed in Rome between the two companies on Wednesday making YMS Promotion Ltd the official organizer of the Russian Round of the FIM Superbike World Championship.

The accord, which will have a ten-year duration, stipulates that next year the FIM Superbike and Supersport World Championships will make their first appearance in Russia at the Moscow Raceway circuit on the outskirts of Moscow.

The date scheduled for the event is 26 August 2012.

Paolo Flammini declared: "In the last few months we have been working very closely with Alexander Yakhnich and his team and we have managed to define all the details in preparation for the arrival in Russia of the championship in 2012. To hold a race in Moscow, in the very first year, was our declared intention and we are therefore extremely satisfied with the choice of Moscow Raceway, a truly state-of-the-art circuit that is in an advanced phase of construction, and which will be completed in a few months time. World Superbike will be the first championship to arrive in Russia, a demonstration of Infront Motor Sports’ commitment to opening up important new markets for motor sport".

Alexander Yakhnich added: "We are delighted to be able to officially represent such a prestigious championship as Superbike in Russia. We know that months of hard work lie ahead of us for the organization of the event but we are certain that in August everything will be ready to give a worthy welcome to the Superbike and Supersport Championships and their protagonists. The commitment of my group for the development of motorcycle sport in Russia will also be shown by the debut of the Yakhnich Motorsport team in the 2012 FIM Supersport World Championship with Russian rider Vladimir Leonov and another rider still to be decided".
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Gaesati
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2011 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is there any truth in the rumour that a russian consortium has offered to take over the whole Yamaha factory WSBK effort?
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Trojan
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2011 - 05:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is there any truth in the rumour that a russian consortium has offered to take over the whole Yamaha factory WSBK effort?

There are all sorts of rumours flying around at the moment. Until earlier this week the main contender was teh ParkinGo team that currently leads the WSS championship with Chaz Davies. However on Monday Yamaha announced that they were not happy with their bid, and that a mysterious Anglo-South African investment group that was apparently going to take over the whole WSB operation including staff etc.
Since then there has been yet another strong rumour that Yamaha have managed to find the budget from somewhere else in the company (R&D rather than Yamaha Europe) to enable them to continue running the team as a factory outfit next year after all, although details are scant on this story.

Clear as mud....what is clear is that Yamaha will be racing in WSB in some form next year probably with the same riders and the same bikes in the same team, albeit maybe in different colours.

Paul Bird meanwhile, has been spreading his wings after being knocked back by Kawasaki WSB team, and is rumoured to be putting together a MotoGP team using Aprilia RSV4 engines in FTR frames, and with a British rider (Leon Camier?) for next year as a CRT team.....

The plot thickens...
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2011 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What the heck is this? The Honda CBR1000 does not come equipped with a throttle-by-wire system, so why should it be legal for them to use it in WSBK?>
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46champ
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2011 - 02:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Honda must be allowed to be competitive.
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just three more points and Carlos gets his first World Championship!
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What the heck is this? The Honda CBR1000 does not come equipped with a throttle-by-wire system, so why should it be legal for them to use it in WSBK?>

WSB rules have been changed to allow the use of fly-by-wire controls on bikes not equipped with it as stock. Why? who knows....

Honda will have full fly by wire for 2012 anyway so I don't know why the rule has been introduced unless to placate Honda/Ten kate for the rest of this year.

Good racing this weekend but I really have to feel sorry for Chaz Davies. He only needed a 3rd place to tie up the WSS campionship and was leading the race by a good 10 seconds when his engine went bang (as did his Yamaha team mates engine shortly afterwards). This was his olny blow up this year and with such a prize at stake must be even more galling. Hopefully he will seal it at Magny Cours though : )
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Blake
Posted on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting...

Superbikes with traction control:

Aprilia RSV4 APRC SE

BMW S1000RR

Ducati 1198

MV Agusta F4 1000

Kawasaki ZX-10R

Clearly, it's a charge lead by European manufacturers, with the Japanese late to the party. Kawasaki's S-KTRC is the first traction control system used on a Japanese sportsbike and is arguably the most advanced; using a Bosch developed system, it collects data from multiple sensors over 200 times a second.

Yamaha are the second Japanese manufacturer to add TC to their top of the range superbike.


from http://www.visordown.com/features/discuss-do-1000c c-superbikes-need-traction-control/19071.html


I'm hoping the Bazzaz folks will step up and go world class in the field of traction control.
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Davegess
Posted on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What went wrong with Laverty, he got a 4th. Doesn't he always get 5th? ; ) ; )
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Honda will have full fly by wire for 2012 anyway so I don't know why the rule has been introduced unless to placate Honda/Ten kate for the rest of this year.




That doesn't make sense. Johnny Rea isn't even CLOSE to being in the running at this stage of the game.
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46champ
Posted on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Honda will have full fly by wire for 2012 anyway so I don't know why the rule has been introduced unless to placate Honda/Ten kate for the rest of this year.

Come on people follow the money. Honda probably made noises in the back room about they wanted fly by wire now not 6 months from now. After all it doesn't do them any good sales wise if the first victory does not happen till next spring they would loose sales.

All Honda has to do is threaten to pull out of a racing series and the racing governing bodies just roll over. The motorcycle media lets Honda do this and never calls them on it. TELL ME I AM WRONG. The evil empire is at work again.
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Honda isn't that important to WSBK. Look at the number of bikes by brand on the grid. There are more Aprilias and Ducatis on the grid than there are Hondas. Heck, there are more KAWASAKIS on the grid than Honda. Don't see how kissing Honda's @$$ would make one bit of difference.

MotoGP is a different story altogether.
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 05:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All Honda has to do is threaten to pull out of a racing series and the racing governing bodies just roll over. The motorcycle media lets Honda do this and never calls them on it. TELL ME I AM WRONG. The evil empire is at work again.

Honda are not DIRECTLY involved in the Ten Kate race team (or at least they haven't been for a few years, but will be next season), so they don't have much sway in the decision making in WSB rules. However I would think that Ten Kate must have been teh prime mover in getting the rule makers fto look at the 'fly by wire' rule, as every other major team already has this technology and much newer models than Honda currently race in WSB.

That doesn't make sense. Johnny Rea isn't even CLOSE to being in the running at this stage of the game.

He may not be in with a shot at the title, but they still want race wins.

It probably isn't a coincidence that in his first race with 'fly by wire' controls he wins one race and was leading the second pretty comfortably before a 20 cent battery connection failed.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

much newer models than Honda currently race in WSB.




It's not WSBK's fault that Honda couldn't figure out how to do "Ride by Wire" till now; everybody ELSE did. Should've waited till next season when the technology was actually on the production bike.
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Vagelis46
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bending the rules slightly is not a bad thing , if it produces better racing and allows riders and bikes to demonstrate their true potential .

It was good to see Rea demonstrate his big talent , with the new electronic gas. Since everyone else is using it in WSBK, why not Honda ???
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Amafan
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry to tell you this Jamiec, but the 2012 CBR1000RR does not have a "Ride by Wire" system either . Honda is to cheap , I think they are also the only manufacture not to have a form of traction control on a 1000cc Sportbike either, since the 2012 Yamaha R1 will have traction control .
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Odd, because weren't they the first with a "Sportbike ABS" system?

I classify a Honda "Ride-by-wire" system in the same category as Aprilia's gear-driven cams. In other words, "WTF???"
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Trojan
Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 05:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Honda 'ride by wire' system is a lot more than a simple electronic way of connecting the throttle grip to the engine.
It includes (amongst other things) auto 'blip' for when changing down, engine braking adjustment, GPS mapping and all the other bells and whistles that the other teams take for granted in WSB (and which nearly all are banned in BSB from next year!).

I read yesterday that Suzuki and kawasaki also don't have 'ride by wire' as standard on their bikes, and although I am not surprised by Suzuki I was sure that the new ZX10 had all the latest gizmos including ride by wire already.

Honda raced at the Le Mans 24 hours last weekend with electronic ABS on their TT Legends race bike that finished 5th. The first time it has been used in racing I believe. I wonder how long it will be before it is standard in WSB and MotoGP racing?
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cheating seems to be paying off for Honda... Rea is on the pole.
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2011 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CARLOS!!!!
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chaz Davies!!!
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Blake
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What did Chaz do?
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Gaesati
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 04:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chaz Davies is English, that's enough for some. He is also a decent talent on machinery that is worthy of him, most of the time this year.
Interestingly, the R6 seems to be the worst road bike and best race bike of the supersport contenders and this trend seems mirrored by the rest of the field.
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 05:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What did Chaz do?

Won the World Supersport Championship in very good fashion : )
After having the title snatched from his grasp last weekend when leading by 10 seconds, he rode more conservatively this week to 6th place, as he only needed to beat Fabien Foret to grab the title.

If any WSB/Moto2/MotoGP team is looking for a very experienced young rider (he is still only 24) then Chaz is the man : )


Chaz isn't English by the way....He's Welsh : )

(Message edited by trojan on October 04, 2011)
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