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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One last thing, Corry Booker seems to be tuning up for a Presidential run. Can the Democrats really be hypocritical enough to support him? Democrat Cory Booker Forgets He Admitted To Groping A Unwilling Drunk Girl as a Teen, While In College Yes, I'm positive they can be this hypocritical.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The thing about the 2012 timeframe is, Kavanaugh has gone through multiple high-level, high-security, high-influence positions since then.

This never came up?

Convenient...

I honestly suspect the accuser's handlers told her "don't worry, you'll accuse him and that'll be enough, you won't ever have to testify or anything". So, they never built or learned a backstory.

I've had a traumatic event. I've lived with PTSD. Even with no recollection of the immediate event (motorcycle accident that should, by all accounts, have killed me)...I can tell you EXACTLY where it happened, EXACTLY when it happened, and EXACTLY what the weather was like that morning (which is the last thing I remember, my morning commute).

Life-changing events have a habit of sticking, whether you "block" it or not. If you remember it well enough to accuse someone, you remember it ALL. If you only remember bits and pieces and nobody can corroborate...I call bull$hit.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The thing about the 2012 timeframe is, Kavanaugh has gone through multiple high-level, high-security, high-influence positions since then.

This never came up?

Convenient...


Didn't need to... Yet. This was to keep him off the SCOTUS.

Life-changing events have a habit of sticking, whether you "block" it or not.

Exactly. She's not even sure what year it happened. I can pretty well work out what year any memorable event from HS happened. She can't nail down the year, or who's house the party was at. Now she doesn't want to put anything on the record under oath. BS!
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now she doesn't want to put anything on the record under oath.

Because she is LYING.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



(but nobody can call her out on it, without risking being called "sexist", "abusive", and a "nazi conspirator".

Even though they're right about it and she is LYING.)
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This sounds a lot like "recovered memory" stuff.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovered-memory_t herapy

There are techniques, somewhat like hypnosis, where a therapist can plant a false memory on a patient. No shiny pendulum, spinning coin, none of the cliche stuff. Just sitting & talking, and afterwards you've got a "memory" of a non existent past. This technique has been abused to plant false memories of sexual abuse in childhood. Leading to destroyed lives and families.

The same technique can be used to remove the false memory, leaving the subject pretty messed up with contradictory memories, thus is as unethical as torture or suppression therapy, where remembering an event is punished by drugs etc. ( see also A Clockwork Orange )

You wouldn't believe how effective this stuff is.

Done properly, long suppressed memories can be recovered, of variable use in treating PTSD. Done wrong, the therapist implants their own fantasy on the subject.

In many cases of post trauma amnesia, the information isn't in storage. Never processed from short to long term memory.

I've personally seen this treating heat stroke cases in martial artists, where they pass out coming out of the arena. Zero recall of the end of the fight, after the blood pressure drop amplified by dehydration, caused loss of consciousness at the end of the bout, as the fighter relaxes as he/she steps out of the "ring". Full throttle to fall down in seconds.

This is too, too common at the Woods Battle at Pensic, a "resurrection" melee combat where, after you lose a fight, you walk to " rez point", at the edge of the woods. You go from high effort, to slogging, hot, thirsty, and heavily clothed in restricting gear, perhaps hundreds of yards, in dusty, windless, woods, to the edge..... And boom! Out go the lights.Face plant. Out cold.

Doesn't matter if it's fencing or armored combat, protective gear is worn until out of the fighting area, and it doesn't breath, cloth or steel.

Every single case I've dealt with, and after 20+ years, I've lost count, 30?-50?, Has had short term memory loss. None remember falling down. If it's a tournament list, like a boxing ring size, they seldom remember the end of the fight. If it's after a few minutes walk out of a melee field, they don't remember reaching the edge.

Doctors I've discussed this with, many, tell me current theory requires a playback period between short term and long term memory of a variable few minutes to retain events. Short circuit that, and the short term is lost. That's theory, but seems solid based on observation.

Phlebotomists, who witness lots of fainting adults, say that isn't necessarily the case when needle phobes pass out after a blood draw & wake right back up. But does happen sometimes.


Final word?

Don't know if this accuser is bogus or not.
Don't know if her memory is false, and she really believes it.

Do know the tactics here are deliberate, and by "true believers" who do not hesitate to lie.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How else can I say it? Oh!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

“As you are aware, she has been receiving death threats, which have been reported to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and she and her family have been forced out of their home,” the email continued. “She wishes to testify, provided that we can agree on terms that are fair and which ensure her safety.”



Ohhh......so, just like all the Republican folks, then, who have been abused out of restaraunts and other public places, and threatened, and assaulted in public, all because of call-outs by the likes of Maxine Waters?

Yeah.

Sucks when it happens to YOUR side, doesn't it??

Payback's a bitch, huh?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry - citation for the above quote:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/20/kavanau gh-accuser-christine-ford-reportedly-opens-door-to -testifying-next-week.html
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...and here's a question for the accuser: "If you were 15, why were you drunk at a party in the first place, to the point where you can't remember where it was, when it was, or who was there with you?"
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Tootal
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I remember a girl from Jr. High that was quite the tease. I was her parents paper boy. One time I went to collect for the paper and she answered the door in panties and a bra and let me tell you, she was an early bloomer! I just asked for the money and once paid I left like there was nothing wrong with this situation. Later my brother was at a party at her house and she would hyper ventilate and have somebody squeeze her to where she passed out. Tell me a few horny teenagers didn't take a peek! Besides, it was the 70's and if you remember it you weren't there!
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/09/fast_ times_at_holton_arms_high_when_christine_blasey_fo rd_was_a_student_there_.html

Because drinking to excess was the standard at her elite rich kid school.

I really don't like the "she was asking for it" defense Hillary and other scum use to discredit rape victims. Trailer trash don't deserve to get raped because they don't have rich parents, either. Yes, that is a Hillary thing, too.

But neither should a rich spoiled brat be accused of asking for it.

I'm not allowed to opine on my desired fate for such folk. Violates site morality standards to say. I feel rather strongly about it.

I also think those who make deliberate false accusations deserve legal action.

If I'm willing to suspend my opposition to capital punishment for rape cases, then false accusations approach attempted murder.

I'm keeping an open mind on this case of claimed teen fondling. Just as I keep an open mind on the fairly well corroborated claim of violent rape by Hillary's husband.

The difference is one has a vague memory to say it happened, some year? And the other is a case of known serial liars denying it.

Open doesn't mean I have no opinion.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why .... pray tell .... is the F. B. I. Involved?

It’s a state matter.

There’s no crime.

I’m perplexed.

By the way .... if the F. B. I. DOES investigate and finds something .... they, having done 6 prior “detailed background investigations” are going to have egg on their face.
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