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Mikexlr650
Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

gentleman jon,
i am also looking into the dyna-sport suspension set-up. the forks are dealer available for $800(ouch!).
the dyna's really are great bikes, try this one; put your feet on the passenger pegs, hang off a little and presto knee-down on a harley. really messes with the local squids. great fun too! just don't try to keep it there or the wobbles will get you(hence the need for upgraded suspension).
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Nondual
Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They sell bolt-on larger gas tanks for Harleys?

That's kinda cool, actually.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I believe Harley only sells them for the sporty, since they can come with the tiny gas tank.

But the aftermarket has all kinds of tanks for Sporty's, Dyna's, and Softails.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actually the whitewall tires on not on the Dynas, they only are on the Road Kings.

The Dynas use 19" Front/17" Rear tires, the Road Kings use 16" on both ends. And the 16" tires are the only ones that have enough sidewall height to use a whitewall.

The Fat Bob and Street Bob also use the same tire sizes as the other Dynas.

But whitewalls are optional and a matter of taste I guess. I cannot remember the last vehicle I had that had white sidewall tires on it.

Jack
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOOK! That big old single also has the HUGE rear pulley off a Blast!

Look! The muffler is hung underneath the bike!


You didn't mention it also has belt drive... leather belt drive.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It also has a ZTL rear wheel! At least for the big belt pulley.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmm... the idler for the belt seems awfully familiar, too... in appearance if not in function.
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Regkittrelle
Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

JackBQ...
The Dyna "Fat Bob" wears 16-inch wheels at both ends with a 180-section at the back and a 130 on the front. This wheel/tire (Dunlops new 427s) choice is one of the primary reasons I like this bike. With wheel combos that are close in size each end follows a very similar track. The opposite of this are the ridiculous (from a handling standpoint) and silly 300+ section tires "matched" to a skinny front.

(Message edited by Regkittrelle on September 11, 2007)
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Jayvee
Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

like



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Nondual
Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've heard the 'Easy Rider' bike was one of the most uncomfortable bikes to ride ever.
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A local dealership recently had a ride-in bike show, less than a dozen or so bikes entered. Guess which one won the overall trophy.... yep, the Easy Rider look-a-like one.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Reg,

Thanks for correcting that on the tire sizes. It sort of confuses me though. I think some of the older Fat Bobs did use the 19/17 pairing.

I just looked at some of the info on the 2008 models and see that H-D is trying to "make statements" with the latest Fat Bob and Rocker models.

Here is an interesting review on those:

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/25july07_2008hd_fat boy_rocker.htm

I can't help but notice the comments like these:

"The bike (Rocker C) seemed to handle better without a windshield at higher, freeway speeds (where the windshield made the front end slightly unstable)."

and

"Some handling capabilities are sacrificed in the name of style on the Rocker, notably low-speed steering with the raked-out forks and the 19-inch front wheel, which can make the bike feel like it is falling into corners a bit suddenly."

So now you got the factory, in the interest of improving sales, taking otherwise stable bikes and doing things to them that makes them less stable. But it looks cool...

Jack
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Regkittrelle
Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Got that right, Jack, but H-D is not the worst of them in doing this. I've had platform engineers (not H-D's) admit to me off-line that the 300 section tires are really a step backwards in handling. A quick ride aboard any one of them proves that point.
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2007 Street Bob.....







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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

nice
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There appear to be many paths to motorcycling enlightenment.

One popular path among the Milwaukee faithful is to take a bike which has ordinary handling at best, and then spend a fortune to make it almost uncontrollable in a corner and lethally fast in a straight line.

This is one path upon which I, for one, do not plan to tread.

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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jon sorry to tell ya but the bike above handles just as well as some Harley's I have ridden and stop's on a dime. The bike above can also have the factory Street Bob seat on it so the comfort level as really pretty good. The motor is stock other then air-intake and pipes. You'd be surprised how nice it really is. The one above is ridden daily and has close to 20,000 miles on it since sold to him last year.
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Jayvee
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like a little "Confederate" influence to me. It's all right, though not my cup of tea as far as actually owning one like this.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Friday, September 14, 2007 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bads,

How do the brakes work? I see the clutch lever on the hand shift on the transmission. But I don't see how the front brake works. I'm not arguing that it works, I'm just wondering how.

I don't get the mentality (in a manufacturer, a custom builder, a do it your selfer, or a buyer) that would let any of them accept diminished rider control or even poor handling or braking in the interest of capturing some sort of "look and feel".

Jack
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, September 14, 2007 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jack,

The bike runs on a Wilwood dirt track racing brake system for cars. The bore on the pistons have been reworked so they aren't so violent or should I say over kill. The foot lever applies the pressure to both back and front but some wht more to the front. As far as poor handling ??? It handles quite well and the ride is actually pretty good. He also offers the bike with the standard Street Bob seat on it it for added comfort. The bike actually is very surprising.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Bads, I figured it must have been something like that.

I didn't mean to say that the Street Bob bike was necessarily bad handling

Folks do things all the time for a "look" that diminishes good things. As an example, a bike with ape hangers and forward controls is not as controllable in some situations.

The review linked to above about the Harley Rocker C is a classic example of a manufacturer letting styling win out over stopping and handling. I'm glad the reviewer was honest enough to state in a review what would be a potential sales killer for some people.

I suspect that if a person had to pass a practical skills test (maneuvering, stopping, etc.) on a bike before they could ride it on the street, a lot of customs would not be there.

Jack
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Nondual
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You know what's funny? I'm starting to figure out where my bias against Harley-type bikes come from...and it wasn't even an opinion I HAD until a certain event.

I saw a few Harley guys the other day. I just lowered the window and listened to the engine and tried to 'see' the bikes for the first time without the preconceptions. Then I imagined the same sound in a sportbike. Ah-ha! Now I understand the air-cooled Buell lust.
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