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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow ND,you have it all wrapped up and in a Nut Shell. We might as well pack it up boy's and Girl's ND has it all figured out and now motorcycling should be narrowly focused in one area. I think I'm gonna buy a new watercraft. Hope there is no posers.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I suspect there are people who think I'm cool... but I've never actually met them.
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Nondual
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't think anyone would ever accuse me of being 'cool', no.

My girlfriend said the other day, "I forget what a total geek you really are..."
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike how and the heck did you find my mother inlaw??? lol
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Figured I'd better delete lest she track me down.
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

She won't mind you should see her Sub that thing.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Okay, but if she comes knocking on my door I'm going to send her south. : )

(imagelinked from http://www.sbbcustoms.com/image/obj53geo43pg1p12.p ng )

(Message edited by mikej on September 06, 2007)
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Mortarmanmike120
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't even know what the mid-to-late 90's cruisers ARE. I'm not interested in mid-to-late-90s cruisers - I'm interested in what's available TODAY
But you're asking people why they buy Harleys. Go buy an '08 HD anything and an '08 M109R. 10 years from now you'll still have a Harley with some value to it. The 109 - you won't even be able to give it away. (MHO)

You can poo-poo nostalgia, branding, or resale value all you want but they ARE valid reasons to purchase for some people. Smith & Wesson vs Taurus.
Levi vs Faded Glory.
Rolex vs Timex.

Buy what you like and don't worry about what everybody else rides... just keep the shiny side up!
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Nondual
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Resale value?? Really? That figures into your reasons for buying?

Why is Rolex better than Timex?

Levis? No one wears Levis anymore. Luckys, maybe. Or some other supposedly fashionable jean. I buy my jeans at Old Navy, so I wouldn't know.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>Resale value?? Really? That figures into your reasons for buying? ,<<

It's like 20 more horsepower.

You don't really need it - but it's nice to know it's there.
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Nondual
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well yeah, Harleys are the only bike I know with such great resale value.

Maybe I just need to hang around different Harley folks than I've been unlucky enough to find thus far.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll ask Willy G this question when I talk to him on Saturday.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Reg said:

"..FC's do not offer what I consider a safe, controllable riding position... even if I were taller..."

You were right then, drag bars and forward controls do suck. Glad we cleared that up.

And you are right about forward controls too.

I have mid controls and also a set of highway pegs. I use the highway pegs to get the kinks out and stay comfortable on the highway. The highway pegs make for a very comfortable riding position, arguably about as good as it gets. Without those, I could not stay on the bike for 2-3 hours at a time. With them I think I can do 8-12 hour days with no problems.

A bike with forward controls only is a classic example of something people do for looks that reduces the rider's control over the bike. I think it even puts them in some danger.

I raise my weight off the seat or shift it to the outside for making those tight, minimum radius, parking lot kind of turns almost every time I ride.

Out of curiosity, I tried doing the same things with with my feet on the highway pegs (as if I had only forward controls) and it simply cannot be done.

Jack
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Jon
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One of the most absurd sights I see on the road is a person on a Harley with his feet up on highway pegs. Assenine...absurd...I'm going to go with a combo phrase..."assensurd".

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week...
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Ceejay
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry Jack and Jon but there's a reason they're called Highway pegs...Whether the rider actually uses them for their intended purpose, well I dunno. Similar to this thread I guess: )
If I had the money there'd be one of those Dyna fat bobs in the garage. White wall tires on it, better rear seat and and some hard saddle bags. "Call yer momma, cause were going for a ride!" would be the monthly saying, as I have to worry about the kids, but that bike just looks like it's made for going somewhere, slowly-cruisin style-I think I'll take 25, 23, 31...
Haven't been too many other cruisers that have said that to me, Harley or otherwise.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think I know what Jon means by silly looking.

I'm not sure what I look like in a head on view but I hope it is not like that silly looking, outward leaning, pair of size 13's I see coming at me sometimes.

My feet are forward, in against the frame, and the backs of my heels are near or gently resting against the shifter and the brake pedal. I can up and down shift without removing my foot from the peg.

I don't brake with my heel and getting on the back brake will take an extra fraction of a second. But the other 75-90% or so of the braking on the front end will be going on as normal in the mean time.

I get pains in my knees and hip joints after an hour or so. Moving my feet forward stops that and feels good. Later, moving them back to the mid controls feels good too. The fore and aft shifts occasionally just seem to keep things loosened up and comfortable.

Let's see Jon, '42 from '61 is 19. I'll check back with you 2026 and see if they still seem like a bad idea. I can remember when I didn't want them either. Time changes things...

Ceejay,

I have no problem with highway pegs. I like and use them. I said that, in my opinion, rigging a bike so it has *only* forward controls is silly and dangerous because it threatens a riders ability to control the bike.

Jack
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Jackbequick
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nondual,

Did you ever ride a H-D cruiser for an hour or so? Or a Buell? I'd like to hear your impression of them after you do that if you have not.

This is not a flame, simple humor. I thought about this thread and your position on H-D riders and bikes when I read today's Non Sequitur comic strip:

http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/

Jack
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Ceejay
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oops missed the "only" part: )

I saw a small person cruising down the freeway last night, girl or guy I couldn't tell, but anyone who looks to be 5'5" and 140lbs doesn't need to be on a Busa, just as a 6'2" 230lber shouldn't be on a 9r. I'm sure they think they look aces, just as I think I look: )
But there it is isn't it, we ride what we buy, and buy what we ride, who's to say what that should be other than the family accountant: )
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Regkittrelle
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Somebody please reach over and slap some sense into Ceejay.

Bags? Slow? Momma?

The "Fat Bob" is not that bike, CJ. It carves a road like a rat on a rail. It does not want to go slow, and would probably refuse to carry the bags.

Whitewall tires?!

Have you ever heard the term, "Gag a maggot?"

The FB's a ripper that probably should come with a warning label, "Not for CeeJay."
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Road_thing
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



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Ceejay
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They'd better be quick!

That's what I'll do to it when I get one, if were still hanging out here in five years I'll show you what it looks like. White walls are cool! Guess you harley types are always trying to look the part so they wouldn't fit: )

slowly means I aint got no particular place to be, and don't care how quickly I get there-not really a definition of my speed...

that'd be awesome-my very own warning label!!!

Seriously the bike looks like it would be as much fun as a sporty but I could do it for more days at a time and with my lady-which is getting to be prereq...
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Regkittrelle
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK... you semi-redeemed yourself.

Seriously, the Fat Bob is a very fun motorcycle that puts you in the mood to rip.
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Cataract2
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Seriously, the Fat Bob is a very fun motorcycle that puts you in the mood to rip.

So do beans and hot wings.
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Ceejay
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gee thanks!
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Jon
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jack,

Old people rule, so I'll make an exception in your case. Peg on brother...peg on.

May the peg be with you....always.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Really if you want to go old skool biker, get one of these.

everything else is just a johnny come lately ;P
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Jayvee
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Look the Blast was first. Singles rule!
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Mikef5000
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm coming into this thread very late. I'm assuming these points have all been hit upon, so I'll keep mine short and sweet:

1) The dealer network. (No need to expand on that)

2) Simple, Dependable engines and trannys.

3) Resale Value.

4) Character. (Yes, I feel there is much more character on a rumbling American V-Twin than that of a silky smooth vacuum cleaners of overseas.)

5) Aftermarket. (Not so much chrome or tassels, but say you want a larger gas tank... "Ok, here 57 that will bolt right on, would you like it paint matched?"

6) If I'm looking for a cruiser, then I'm not going to worry about which one is the fastest. Harley's are plenty fast for some spirited cruising, which is all they're designed for. My cruiser doesn't need to be able to do a 12 second QM.
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOOK! That big old single also has the HUGE rear pulley off a Blast!
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Look! The muffler is hung underneath the bike!
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