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Jefc73
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2015 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just a heads up. I sent my machinist the drawing for the stenzel brace and dropping off a set of lower footpeg mounts to him as well. Will see what he can make them for and if anyone is interested will get an order going. Posting to see what kind of interest there is.







(Message edited by jefc73 on April 29, 2015)
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Jefc73
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2015 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One other side note. I may be able to get him to make some frame braces as well like I had made over a year ago. I will have to see.
And like before Iam not doing this to make money, just to pass along a few good sought after parts that are not being made anymore.
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Blks1l
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2015 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interested in the Stenzel.
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Blackm2
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 02:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In for an S1 frame brace.

Is the Stenzel going to have the counter bore, or asked another way, is it necessary with the new type isolator?
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Fxdrydr
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great minds think alike but you beat me to it. I'm up for one that fits the newer isolator. Let me know what you need and I'll get a check off to you.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also in for one stenzel with new style isolator.

Thanks!
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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a stencel that Foximus made for me and I did not have to counter bore

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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Please forgive my ignorance, but what does this doohickey do?
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Phelan
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It lessens the load bearing on the front isolator, making it last much longer.
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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heres some info on Stenzel bars also google it there is alot of info out there
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/disc us.cgi?pg=prev&topic=47623&page=397886
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting. I'd give it a whirl.

What are they going for?
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Blackm2
Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So what is the status?
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Lakes
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 06:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ride my M2 all year round, i fitted a stenzel bar what i noticed improve steering feel, also before the Stezel bar the motor & gearbox could move front to rear on the rubber mounting, as stock stabilisers only control side to side movement not forward to rear like the stencil does i'm happy with mine, it's original not a copy.
i would not ride my m2 without now handles so much improved.
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Xldevil
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Say it together:
STENZEL.
Not Stecil,Stezel or Stencil,simply Stenzel.
http://www.stenzel-parts.de/14375/14321.html

(Message edited by Xldevil on May 11, 2015)
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Jefc73
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

working out the details. So...then would the end with the counter bore can be made flat with the new isolators?? Need clarification
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Gowindward
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would not waste your time or dollars on the Stenzel brace. I made the above drawing and made the part myself. My front isolator did not last any longer with the brace on. This was on my '02 S3T when I had it.
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Jefc73
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loren I wouldn't be making it and putting it on to make the isolator last longer. Iam looking for better handling or more vibration control.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It certainly appears to keep the frame and engine from shifting forward and back with respect to each other, in nearly the same way that the uni-planar mounts keep them from moving side to side while still allowing them to move up and down. I don't see how it reduces vibration, but I can see how it might make the frame and engine a bit more locked together, since the front wheel and rear wheel are only joined front to back through rubber mounts, and make the bike handle better.
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Purpony
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have one from Red93Stang on my bike. Seems to work great and does seem like it cuts down the vibs. I got one of his first ones which has the counterbore for the older isolator so I machined an aluminum plug and pressed it into the counterbore (to remove it) and bolted it onto my new designed isolator. So far so good. I believe he is/did remove the counterbore to allow it to work for the new ones now. I did need to order a new longer bolt.
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Lakes
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 05:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got a late front rubber mount but when i saw the tiny bolt that my motor hangs from, i was not brave enough to trust it so bore the new mount out kept the big ol bolt to hangs from , it's been two years now & happy.
X1devil i write Senzil & Apple puts stencil

But i'm happy to have the real thing as the gent who designed & thought it himself, deserves the $.
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Tombo
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 06:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have been using the Stenzil with my original 1997 front isolator for a couple of years and no tears in that isolator.
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Jefc73
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone know the center hole to center hole dimension? Also what size are the bolts if using new style front isolator? Going to have one mocked up.
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can measure mine tonight for you
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"But i'm happy to have the real thing as the gent who designed & thought it himself, deserves the $."

Lakes: I am with you. How does one purchase the real deal?
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Jefc73
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was told by fxdrydr that he tried to buy from the guy in Germany and NO GO! So...the next best thing is to make them then. Iam going to have one made and see what it does or doesn't do.
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wasn't actually gonna install it. I just needed a new paper weight...

Stop! I'm just kidding! ; )
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Jayvee
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got one through R - R Customizing (German web site.) It was a few years ago.
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Fxdrydr
Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep - tried to buy one from the German firm. Numerous emails and even called. No-go.

Their order page is in German and I emailed to see if they could take my card via email, or translate the page, or let me pay by check and I'd wait for it to clear, or take my order some other way. Turned into a saga.

They couldn't take my credit card, wanted a money transfer from my bank. Bank wanted $150 to set that up... Then the German company asked for something else weird, bank couldn't/wouldn't do it.

Like I said, became a saga over the course of maybe two weeks with me suggesting how they could take payment and them responding with weird solutions.

Ended up buying one off eBay. I think the whole email chain is somewhere on a German site that posts humorous email chains where someone is screwing with someone - like that guy on Craigslist. I'm probably famous now.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe Twin Motorcycles could get them?
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

These are simple to make there is nobreason to oay more if you have a drill press a vise and some inginuity you can make it in your garage.
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