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800mxz
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I have been looking for a S3T for awhile now, and found one close to me that I am willing to take a look at, but it is about 7 hours away.

Anyways, the bike is a 2009, and the guy has owned it since new. Say it was the first 99 that was out near him when he bought it.

Now, I have a couple questions if you can help.

Owner says it is a 99, and it is Fuel Injected (98 had carbs, I used to own a 98 S3T) but what I see in the pics are (1) the engine cases are bare aluminum, not black (thought the 99s were black?) and (2) the bike has the older, non-cast swingarm on it, which I thought was a tell-tale sign of a 99?

I just want to ask if I should worry that this is some kind of basket case.

Was it possible for there to be a 99 with EFI, cast engine cases (not black) and the fabricated (not-cast) rear swingarm?
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The picture describes a 98 or earlier bike, unless he has replaced the swingarm with an older unit. But also, as you say, 99s had black cases. Later model tubers went back to silver with black heads, but the cases were black in 99. Ask him to snap a picture of the ECM for you.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Link to photos?
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The frame will be a dead giveaway.
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Loose1
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think they made a S3 in '99. My vote is it's a early '00 being it's FI.

Matt
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800mxz
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Talked to the owner, he is not by the bike to verify year, but he is sure it is a 98 or 99
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Lynrd
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You know, he could look at the VIN number, and the engine number, and tell definitively what it is. He could also look at the EPA sticker on the reaction link mount that has the VIN on it - the data of manufacture is there. IT will be a bit off of the Calendar year - my 1998 S3 was built in November of 1997.

The last digits of the Frame and engine should be the same. If not, something was swapped around. I tent to agree with you, all the parts don't sound like they are from the same generation.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They did make an S3 in 99.
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Loose1
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They didn't make any S3T's in '99.
I stand corrected.

http://www.buellxb.com/Buell-XB-Forum/Buell-Articl es/Production-Numbers
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Bikerrides
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm...I have a 99 S3T.
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46champ
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wasn't 99 the year of the build it yourself S3's with the pick what you want frame and body collars and wheel combination. I think specing the bags and a couple of other things made it a S3T.
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800mxz
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well the story now makes sense as he is unable to tell me if it is carbed or FI. Everything appears to be a 98, which I would actually prefer over the first year HD Fuel Injection.

He is out of state on business and is sending me the VIN and more pics of everything when he gets home. Had a long conversation and all sounds legit.
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Lynrd
Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HE doesn't know if it is carburated or fuel injected...

He doesn't know if it is an 98 or a 99...

I am guessing he is a real enthusiast.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You don't have to be a Buell fanboy to know what year your motorcycle is. It's on the registration and the title. And anyone with the slightest interest in things mechanical would know whether the bike was carbureted. I guess some folks just put gas in them and ride.
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Buelljunkie
Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess some folks just put gas in them and ride.

I'm with you, Hoot. Hopefully they remember there's oil in there needs changin', too!
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Mnscrounger
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buelljunkie: Change oil? You mean I can't just dump whats in the breather catch can back into the bag?
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Truedog
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"You don't have to be a Buell fanboy to know what year your motorcycle is. It's on the registration and the title"

This makes me wonder. Does he even HAVE a title?
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Jolly
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The guy I bought my s2 from didn't understand the oil concept...... The primary barely had any in it and the oil tank was OVER serviced......

But it was a "one owner" bike...... Just the wrong one owner!!
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800mxz
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've seen the title, it's a 98 and is in pristine condition. Not everyone has time to sit in the garage and stare at their bike. He owns two businesses in two states, and had a friend who owns a bike service business and has the friend take care of the bike.

I'm glad I'm going to be a owner of a "Tuber" again
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