| Author | Message | ||
     Buellistic |
Gasket,rocker cover-outer PN 17353-89 and Gasket,rocker cover-inner PN 17358-84A can be reused if in good shape and you know what to do ... | ||
| Totolandman |
Are these the correct parts from American Sport Bike? 17128 - Gasket, Primary Cover, XB Series 17129 - Gasket, Cam cover, 00-07 XB and BLAST 17102 - 03-08 Gasket, Primary Chain Inspection Cover, XB series | ||
| Ezblast |
no | ||
| Ezblast |
PM sent | ||
| Muckerpuck |
i would like to know also... | ||
| Totolandman |
Muckerpuck PM sent | ||
| Reuel |
Ok. I'll bite. Buellistic--how can I reuse those gaskets? I've done it once. Can I do it again? | ||
| Ezblast |
Gaskets are tricky - I've never gotten away with re-using a HD/Buell gasket - I know I've tried several times - some folk get lucky though - is it worth your time to redo it if you don't? EZ | ||
| Buuueller |
BTW, HD Dallas (near my house) has a pro series cam and intake for $200. They tried to sell them to me when I did the head work. But I wanted to hold out for something more radical. | ||
| Gbaz |
so i was doing some reading. installing the B70 cam will not require new springs (or any other mods) for the valvs unless you intend to go over 6500 rpm? which would require a new ing mod any way... does this sound about right? im thinking about new cams, and this winter a big bore kit... | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
That would be incorrect. You would need to at least modify the valve guides (see Bershires cheap way of doing this). Also by using those cams without changing springs you would lower the valve float rpm or maximum rpm. It may be minimal as in several hundred rpm, but I dont have the math formula or any other way to know. I do not know if there would be valve spring coil bind either. My guess is no, but I dont have that info handy. | ||
| Gbaz |
sent an emil to NRHS. well maybe having the heads done will be my 1st project, then bore, then cam. | ||
| Walterj |
ok now im not happy. i got my new cams and when i installed them and went to time my little toy, i found that i had to have it advanced all the way. i went ahead and took it for a spin and found that i can just make it to about 70 mph. today i took my toy apart and went to reclock the cams and now i know i screwed up i have to have the thing all the way retarded and it pops when i gas it. no i have not taken her for a spin yet. just not happy about this turn of events. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
If this helps.Sorry I dont think I have a picture of the B50's timing marks installed.  | ||
| Walterj |
Eric, i think that may just be what i need thanks. in the morning i will tear into it again. on the bright side, this time it should not take me that long to get to where i need to be. right now i think that i may just be 1-2 teeth off. it looks like that notch is pointing straight up, that will help me when i get there. again thanks for ALL your help!!!! | ||
| Reuel |
Is it normal for the gears to whine when you replace the cams? | ||
| Berkshire |
Mine didn't. When I test-fitted then in the cover the fit was perfect - no bind, no backlash. Same with drive to #2 gear fit. Did you test-fit yours? | ||
| Reuel |
Yes! Mine fit just fine. They've quieted up a bit since I put them in. It got me thinking about when I first got my Blast with 1 mile on it. I hear other motorcycles make the same sound. It doesn't sound like a bad noise, just more present than with the gears that had almost 30K miles on them. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Yes some gears whine,especially aftermarket. | ||
| Reuel |
I need someone's opinion. Got the Pro Series cams on sale back when they were $85 shipped. Did I do this right?  | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Need a better picture. From this one I cant see all the timing marks or its wrong. | ||
| Ezblast |
Looks to be a tooth off - the two dots are supposed to line up - right? EZ | ||
| Johnnymac |
I would hazard that it's just the angle of the pic and that if it was taken level with the camshafts the dots would be lined up. I could be wrong though but I doubt it. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Its very, very, easy to get the cams 1 tooth off. Yes the picture looks as if at the right angle they would be lined up, but close enough isnt good enough. We also cant see all the other timing marks, particularly the one matching to the crankshaft. | ||
| Reuel |
If you look very closely at the one matching the crank, you can just barely see it. It's the other dot that had me thinking. My mileage just isn't what it should be, so I'm thinking about opening it up again. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
If it runs better than it did with the stockers, you're fine. If it runs worse, then open it up. The pics not good enough to tell. | ||
| Reuel |
I did find myself going really fast the first time I ran it. I guess I'm just being paranoid. I'm starting to think my exhaust is restrictive. It's 1 3/4" ID, but when it was run through the bender, it probably lost some of that. I'm thinking I'm going to have them redo the exhaust next time I get a few bucks. | ||
| Crackhead |
I am geting ready to install the SE/pro series cams soon. From what i have gathered, i need the cam cover gasket, cam seal, both the rocker cover to rocker box and rocker box to head gaskets. I don't need to pull the heads like the manual says and should be able to push up the lifters after the rocker boxes are removed? Can you slide out the shaft for the rockers and not remove the rocker box from the head? For the upgraded oil pump gear. Pinion Gear Nut Locking tool and Oil Pump Drive gear, High Performance. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
1)You dont need a cam seal, unless yours leaks. If it doesnt leak, it probably will after you install a new one! 2)Pinion nut locking tool not needed. Put the bike in gear and step on the rear brake. That will hold the engine enough to remove and retorque. 3)high performance oil pump drive gear may not be needed. Rumor has it that later years have the updated gear. I dont have a 2006 parts book to check  . 4)You are correct in your assumption about the rocker boxes and head removal. Head removal not required, rocker shafts will slide out. Id you have a digital camera, dont forget to take a picture of the timing marks lined up. Dont rely on memory. It will often look like it can go together more than one way. | ||
| Crackhead |
I will email/call Buell of Frederick or Annapolis to find out about the oil pump then. For the rocker cover to rocker box and cam gasket, is there a reusable after market gasket available? The cam seal looks like it could only be a 1 time use. and i will also need a timing cover with screws and gasket is optional. I will try to take pics of the tear down and installation for a nice badweb write up with the short cuts. |
