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Cerbero
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell Ignition switches may be vulnerable to this hack:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=66128&page=1&pp=25
http://www.tristatesportbikes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=286898
http://www.eyebeam.org/reblog/archives/002662.html

All of these forum threads discuss opening Kryptonite locks with a Bic Pen. People have posted videos showing them opening their locks in less than 30 seconds... with a freakin' pen!

According to the posts, it appears as if many kinds of cylindrical locks (such as the kind used as ignition switches on our Buells!) can be opened in under a minute with nothing more than a plastic ball point pen.

I haven't tried it on my bike because it appears as if the lock itself can be ruined in the process, and I don't want to have to buy a new ignition switch... Anyone out there have an extra ignition switch they want to experiment with? I'd love to know if it works.

...c
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank you. I'll remember to stay away from circular locks that have close to the same dia. as a pen. Or maybe just any circular lock...

(Message edited by M1Combat on September 15, 2004)
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's a heck of a lot easier on the old tube framers to just cut a few wires and twist them together. Had to do that myself once. Too easy with the old exposed ignition switch. Not so with the new bikes.
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Outrider
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Locks only keep honest people honest. If you want a real eye opener, attend a crime prevention seminar for police officers that head up the neighborhood watch programs.

I taught a class at a national seminar and saw some of the films and demo's that were given on how to open all kinds of locks. Walked away with the feeling that picks and other entry tools are only for locksmiths that don't want to mar the exposed surfaces.

Sleep well.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't have to worry about that here,

Normally when out for a ride I leave the keys in it when I stop for a while.
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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is some compensation for having to put up with all that freakin' snow.
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hid the ignition switch on mine. It's was a pit of a pain getting to it at first but I got used to it.

I was so glad to get out of a neighborhood where my bike was in the open for a year!
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Loki
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nothing like walking out the door and seeing....

the chain, the lock and that the bike has gone missing!
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bikeforums is getting flooded with page hits over this.
Apparently this little trick has been a known issue for several decades now, just not widely known apparently. Well it is now.

I think I'll start shopping for a locking cover for my locks and start locking my locks with more locks, or maybe I'll just use some duct tape over the hole.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or Mike,

When travelling on the road you could always do this!!!!!

hotel blast
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let me guess, is that hotel in Corner-Brook?
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Ray_maines
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This story, including the video, was on the evening news tonight. What a great way to encourage young kids to steal bikes.
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