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Sgthigg
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 05:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is my situation. I have recently moved to Japan and brought my US model Buell with me.

I have to get it emission tested. I have acess to a Japanese model exhaust and ECM.
I have my stock ECM.

My question is does anyone know if the Japanese ECM is different for Japanese models?
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Donl
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I live in Japan.

What is a Japanese model exhaust and ECM.

The only difference that I know of is the addition of a solenoid on the inside of the airbox ( asked my dealer the reason for it and he said intake noise, removed in last week and there is no difference in noise). My ECM is not stamped with anything to indicate that it would be different. The headlights are stamped with EU though.
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Sgthigg
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The solenoid in the stock exhaust/servo is used to maintain back pressure depending on enging speed and throttle position. The Jap exhaust is different it has the valve but the outlet is alot different than the american pipe outlet. I noticed this and sarted wondering if the Japanese ECM was different too.
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Donl
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well then I guess my dealer is an idiot. I took the solenoid off and haven't noticed any difference. Being that this is Japan and the Japanese being somewhat strict with engine noise (tenken 点検), I assume it has no real use, other than to satisfy government regulations. The outlet is different, it's smaller, long and points to the rear.

I love how the Japanese always take something and **** it up.

I have seen one guy with a Jardin pipe, I think. Man is it loud, especially when he gets on it. I don't think the dealership would have installed it for him, so he must have done it himself.


I'm going to replace my exhaust as soon as I can.

Welcome to Japan.
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Sgthigg
Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I run a Drummer and love it
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07xb12scg
Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm surprised the Japanese ride Buells. I guess they're "exotics" to them and they probably aren't cheap. There can't be that many over there, though, can there? (Hmm odd sentence...)
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Donl
Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I haven't seen very many on the streets, maybe 3 the whole time I've been here.

Most people don't know what they are when the first see them.

Ducati is a lot more popular and very expensive.
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Paul_in_japan
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got a Jap 05 XB12R, as far as I know, the ECM should be the same. In 05 the Japs added a longer tip in the exhaust which points to the rear of the bike. Im pretty sure this was just for noise reduction, Im not sure if the internals are changed. If the Buell can pass those California emissions tests it will have no problem here in Japan. I wouldnt be too concerned. Percentage wise Buells are rare in Japan but there are so many bikes here, they are around. A lot of the older folk have no idea what they are. I often hear the talk when i park my bike and there is always someone staring at it. cant wait to get a Drummer and really scare the pants off them. The Japs love expensive exotic toys and Buell's are no exception. Actually I think the country is perfect for Buell. 85% of the landmass is mountainous which means all the roads go round and round and round. The really tight narrow ones suck on a Jap I4 sport bike but the Buell just eats them up.

Donl where are you? Im in Yamanashi Ken, I think sgthigg is in Okinawa
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Sgthigg
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am in Iwakuni. About an 45 min train from Hiroshima.
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Sgthigg
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I love how the Japanese always take something and **** it up. "

Yah like building a new house without installing any insulation in it. And then electricity costs twice as much. Then on the other hand you have to drive a car the size of a shoe box, to be energy. conscious??

Nevertheless I still like it here they definetly make it up in the lack of crime and common courtesy.
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Donl
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Common courtesy is relative. Try living in Tokyo where very few people have courtesy.

I`m seriously thinking about getting a regular Drummer too. Just need to find an exhaust to send to Kevin.

I`ve been here 7 years and you never get used to how and why the Japanese do the things they do. Doors open to the outside, dryers not common, half the population smokes, etc.
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Paul_in_japan
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lets not get stuck complaining about Japan we could be here all night. Smoking is sexy and makes you look cool.

Either of you guys members of the gaijinriders (do a search) Hiroshima is a bit far for me but I meet some Tokyo guys the other week and we had a great ride down to Shimoda on the Izu Peninsula.

I was just reading in the manual about that solenoid too. Says its there to "reduce engine noise", thats the last thing I want! Ill have to work out how to remove it.
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are a ton of Buellers in Japan.

http://www.jac-net.com/~buell/

This group sent me a TON of stuff when I was making the "Card" for Erik to celebrate the 20th anniversary.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>This group sent me a TON of stuff when I was making the "Card" for Erik to celebrate the 20th anniversary.

That's a VERY accurate statement.

I can't think of a single country in the world, including the United States of America, that has played such a pivotal role in Buell's history, can you?

By the way, every time I go back and revisit the 20th I renew my amazement for the job Spidey did in pulling it together. One of the classiest Buell moments.

Court


Buell Japan
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, June 22, 2007 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't forget Lake and BadS1 they did a lot of work too, Not to mention CJXB and all her work with her group on the poster...
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