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Maverick9s
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2004 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does any own or heard anything about these new pirelli tires that are on the CityX? I need new tires for my '03 9S. Any info would help. Thanks!
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Danny
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2004 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Scorpion Sync's are standard equipment on the Ducati MultiStrada. we've only had one customer come back and put something different on, and he's cheap.

I rode our CityX on a twisty road the other day at 11/10 and they didn't slip once. Consider me impressed.

Danny
95 S2
02 V-Strom
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Maverick9s
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just curious if there were any reviews or tests done with these tires. I just got a nail thru the rear and thought I'd jump up to the Pirelli's.
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Outrider
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Would think those tires would be an excellent choice in all sorts of bad pavement conditions!

I had two sets of Michelin T-66's (the original radial big block dual purpose tires) on my KLR650 and could drag parts in the twisties. The lean angle on that combination was better than any other I have ever owned and they still worked well off road as well. Lots of the California canyon racers made the switch and were beating the rockets in the real tight sections. Sort of a Pre-SuperMoto set up.

Actually, my first set was imported from England as they weren't available in the USA and used the T-65 bias ply front and the T-66 radial rear. Almost as good as the second set that were radial front and rear. The reason I bought them originally was they were quite the rage in Europe, were high mileage tires and handled extremely well in the rain and bad pavement conditions compared to other DP tires of the day. Little did I know I was going to be able to rip up the twisties.
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Torqer
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I read that the tires are not interchangable from XB to XBX. I was wondering why.

(Message edited by torqer on August 10, 2004)
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Darthane
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where did you read that?
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would think that since the wheels are the same size and all it wouldn't be a problem. What could be different to keep one set of tires off of one set of wheels?

Hey Bryan, is the e-mail in your profile correct?
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Torqer
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In the '05 Buell P&A catalog, the new D208s fit all XBs except the XBSX and the Syncs fit only the XBSX. I'll scan and post Wednesday. It thought it may be a reference to the OEM fitment but, it is a P&A catalog... so why would it matter? It put a big question mark over my head.
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Darthane
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Possibly the tires are taller and the front fender hits it? -=shrugs=- Dunno...

Glitch, yes, that e-mail's correct.
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Torqer
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Possibly the tires are taller and the front fender hits it? Sounds reasonable.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so why would it matter?
So Dunlop isn't left out in the cold since everyone now knows the Pirellis are better tire?
Sounds like marketing crap to me.
Buell website says this about the wheels Dark wheels enhance the attitude and appeal of your Buell.
Fits '03-later XB models. Stock on '05 XB9SX models.

So we know it ain't the wheels.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bryan, expect an e-mail from me this week about the Runnin' of th' Ridge. Things are looking better than I expected!
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What's the part# for the fender?
Too bad Torqer ain't got all day to play detective!
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Dj_rider
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

im going to the runnin of the ridge: )...hope 2 see yall there: )
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Darthane
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Same shocks, same tire size...the profile can't be THAT different. I'm gonna go with Glitch on this one and says there's no technical reason you can't put the Pirellis on a different XB than the CityX.

Sweet, that sounds good. I'm probably going to travel down on Tuesday so I can be at the Wednesday morning check-in. It's kind of a long drive for me. I'll have to leave early Saturday morning...my girl's not too keen on me taking off for any length of time after the last nine months!

(Message edited by darthane on August 10, 2004)
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no technical reason
But it could earn you a red star!

I'm tryin' to take Tuesday 'til Tuesday off from work, if not able to it'll be Tuesday off and back to work on Monday. Either way, I can't wait!
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my girl's not too keen on me taking off for any length of time after the last nine months!

Understood; I take it she's staying home?
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Darthane
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, she'll be back in school that week (first week back) and can't miss out. Which, incidentally, is why she wants me to make the trip again with her later, but (EDIT) CAN'T understand why I still want to go this time even without her. -=sigh=- Well, OK, she understands WHY, but isn't very happy about it.

...but I'm still going, and she'll get over it.



(Message edited by darthane on August 10, 2004)
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, we'll just have to set something up for when she can make it down also.
An understanding woman is a rare treasure, I found one also.
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Lightisright
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The CityX ride report in the Sept RRW likes the bike and basically puts all the improvement in feel and grip to the Pirelli tires (comparing 12S and CityX on the cone course), even has that as the title of the article (not that this is news to us now but another voice).
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Torqer
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll have to agree... you guys are probably right about the tires.. It struck me curious.

(Message edited by torqer on August 10, 2004)
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It struck me curious.
Me too.
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Maverick9s
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now I am less worried about putting these Pirelli's on. The only thing I am worried about now is getting to the shop to put them on. I have a 150 mile jog on a plugged Dunlop. I ran over a nail 20 ft. from my house. The nail was sticking up about an inch from the road and busted right through my rear 207. I'll just have to take her slow. I only have about 2,500 miles on the rear. I used an external tire plug and some rubber glue for tire patches. Seems to be holding fine. Any suggestions to make my journey more enjoyable?
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Outrider
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any suggestions to make my journey more enjoyable?

A trailer???

Sorry, I couldn't resist that
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Starter
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Remove the wheels yourself and ferry them by car.
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Torqer
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



The scan I said I would post
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Something very curious there. Getting a valid official answer as to why may be difficult.
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gotta be a crock. That would seem to indicate that the D208s won't fit the '03s and '04s. Umm...I had a set of D208s on mine for the NE Tour. Sure seemed to fit fine to me, and they were great tires to boot.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Same size tires, they will fit with no problem would be my answer.

The only reason I can see why they list em like that is to keep the typical uninformed consumer from putting non stock tires on their particular bike.

Of course I dont see why if the pirellis are great on the SX model why they wouldnt be just as great on the firebolt?? Maybe its part of an agreement with pirelli & dunlop? Maybe its to keep folks from mixing a pirelli rear with a dunlop front & vice versa?
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe its part of an agreement with pirelli & dunlop?That's my guess.
Plus they don't want to confuse us any more than we already are, after all how much could we know, we bought a Buell after all ; )
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