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Lostartist
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

okay, trying to change mufflers, the axle seems to be stuck, does the bike have to be on a lift for the axle to turn out 15 turns? yes I loosened the pinch bolt, there's a little story there too but for now, help on getting the axle nut thing to turn, already broke a ratchet trying to get it loosened

help!

thinking about getting an air compressor and using some power tools
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, I missed something. _WHY_ are you loosening the axle to change the muffler?
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Lostartist
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cause it says so in the book, I kinda thought that was odd too, it seems it's mainly to get the belt tensioner out of the way so you can get to the bolt on the rear clamp, cause it's way in there, but I'm wondering if I can't just get an extension or something to get a socket down in there without messing with the axle thing or the tensioner
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Greg_e
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the clamp is still on top, then you may need to remove the tensioner. That said a 1/4 drive with extensions and U joint may do the trick without messing with the tensioner.
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Lostartist
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah the clamp is still on top, is there anyway to change that?
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Ducbsa
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like an application of never-seize was missed. Once you get it out, you ought to follow the manual there and apply never-seize and the front axle (LH threads there), too.

I reversed the rear muffler straps to have the threaded part on the left side of the bike last time I was there.

(Message edited by ducbsa on March 26, 2011)
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

That said a 1/4 drive with extensions and U joint may do the trick without messing with the tensioner.




That's the way I did it too. You have to take off the front pulley cover and the chin fairing, but that's about it. Once the clamps are off, just slide them around to the position you want them in.
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Lostartist
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wait, left hand threads? So I need to turn the other way? Not righty tighty lefty loosey?
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Rudy
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The rear axle has normal threads. Turn the rear as you would normally to get it out. The FRONT axle has left hand threads.

If I were you, I'd try to shoot some penetrating oil in there and then use a big honking breaker bar. I've got a 1/2" drive 18" long breaker bar for situations like this. If you could heat the swingarm while cooling the axle simultaneously, that would help, too.
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"That said a 1/4 drive with extensions and U joint may do the trick without messing with the tensioner."

Yup. And;

"I reversed the rear muffler straps to have the threaded part on the left side of the bike last time I was there."

Yup
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yeah, don't forget a little anti-seize on the axle before re-install.
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Iman501
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2011 - 02:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope some of this info will help! : )
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Lostartist
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2011 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

okay, got the muffler changed, just needed more leverage and proper tools, back to stock, changed to a stock ecm too, and the only thing that's just a bit worrisome is that it occasionally cuts out on me occasionally, usually at idle or in neutral, I haven't done a TPS reset or anything with the stock computer that's in there now, any ideas if that's all it needs? seems to run slower too, I do have a K&N air filter is that letting to much air in?

I did something else stupid too, I stripped the threads in the hole for the pinch bolt, any suggestions on how to fix this? Heli Coil? can I retap it the same size? they are the top threads though, the pinch bolt still goes in but there's nothing on the top to tighten to.
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2011 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Which pinch bolt, the one on the axle? That would be bad and you should get a helicoil in there fast just to make sure the axle doesn't spin out (shouldn't but you never know).
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Lostartist
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yup, that pinch bolt, will take care of it next weekend, won't ride until then.
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Greg_e
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I forget since I haven't even looked at my cycle since November, does the bolt hole go all the way through the swingarm? If not drilling it for a helicoil is going to be impossible since the drill and helicoil are much larger than the bolt that goes in.
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Lostartist
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if worse comes to worse I can replace the whole swing arm, how hard would that be?
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Iman501
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i think you'd have a harder time finding a swing arm than actually having a hard time replacing it! lol

(and an extra swing arm is something i dont have : ) haha
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Iman501
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ebay item # - 190516113403

i lied : ) haha
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Lostartist
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

before I go all crazy with buying swing arms, can't I re-tap the hole? or helicoil it? JB weld? what are my options?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well I can't tell you how many miles I rode without a pinch bolt in the swing arm but it was a lot....
I wouldn't go getting your panties in to big of a bunch...
You would need to ride backwards for a ton of miles to make the axle even think about backing out.

It might over tighten its self... but I don't think you need to worry about it backing out
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Clrobins
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree, there are millions of bikes out there without pinch bolts in the swingarm. Tubers included.
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Lostartist
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cool, I'll re-tap it the best I can and check the torque on the axle once and awhile, and I think a TPS reset will take care of the rough idle/stalling problem, got a cable on the way hopefully with the program as well.
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Iman501
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

good to know, did you get the Cable/map package on ebay?....

I had read someplace that a few guys who bought the cable on ebay had some problems getting it to connect to the PC. Hopefully yours works good! if not I'll find the thread for you that described how they got it to work
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Lostartist
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got it from:

http://www.vtwintunerconnection.com/index.html

hope I don't have too many problems with, going to use this as an excuse to wipe my old laptop clean and restore it, it's way cluttered up with crap and I barely use it, kinda wanna buy a netbook though too
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Lostartist
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfev2eMN3Ss&feature =player_embedded

making me think twice about that pinch bolt
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no worries


http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=4062&post=2021849#POST2021849
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At the beginning of Spring last year I got a new set of tires.
At the end of Spring I needed a new set.
When I was taking off the rear tire I noticed I hadn't replaced the pinch bolt.
The rear axle was just as tight as it was with the bolt in place.
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Iman501
Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.buellxb.com/Buell-XB-Forum/Buell-Firebo lt-XB12-XB9/ecmspy-FAILED-TO-GET-COM-PORT--Arrrggg hhhhh

here is the thread i was thinking of earlier

and that video you posted with the rear tire coming off was part of motorcycleUSA's "create a caption wednesday" thing today! haha
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 03:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

umm I had no Idea there was a bolt there until I read this and then i looked in th part manual and I have had my wheel on and off since I have owned the bike but tomorrow I am going to go check if it is there or if it is just loose.

(Message edited by firebolt020283 on March 31, 2011)
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