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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I completely agree and using factory recommended fluids is a 100% safe thing to do.
At the first oil change I went with Mobil1 gear oil.
20,000 miles later the stator looked like this

Replaced stator, 20,000 miles later I had another stator burn out.
Then I changed to Formula+, it's been well over 20,000 miles since, with no problems yet.
Coincidence?
Maybe, but I'll just stick with Formula+
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ditto what Glitch said, and my stator looked just like that. Changed to Mobil 1 75W90 Synth at 1K miles...at ~18K or so my stator was toast. Switched to Mobil 1 20W50 after that.

Same price, no difference in shifting, peace of mind = priceless.
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Slamber777
Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had heard good things about Amsoil on previous threads so, I changed to the 20w-50 aircooled stuff the other day. Wow! It actually did make a difference in the way it shifted. Not as clunky and smoother shifts. And I'm usually a skeptic with the "vast improvement" comments.
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Jcbikes
Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have been using GL-5 since 200 miles on the bike and now have 21,000 on the bike with no problems (yet). We will see. Bike shifts fantastic with it. When I change the oil (at every 1,500 miles), the oil is almost like new with no smell at all. Did the bikes with the bad stators have a smell to the oil? (I had heard this awhile back on this site).
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Jos51700
Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've seen stators burn like that with all types, OE, Syn3, Amsoil, etc, but that does not mean there's not some validity to that.

When a stator goes, you know it as soon as you pull the inspection cover, regardless of the oil type...It's a smell that stays in your clothes all day, and in your skin for a couple of days if you do the work.

I do agree, too, that oil is among the many things (Well, all things, really) chosen on price point for any given product. I just think that a manufacturer is going to choose oil, and especially filters, that are better, to avoid warranty claims.

Warranty ultimately comes out of their pocket, and I'm sure that, somewhere at HD-Buell, there's a guy that looks warranty claims, and oil cost, and crunches numbers all day.
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