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X1glider
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We thank you Cessna. Unfortunately for me, missing half of my left foot, I was never allowed in the military. I tried all the branches only to get "we want those with all appendages." I guess it didn't matter that I was in the best shape of my life and could get through basic with the greatest of ease, and still can 15 years later. So I went to college instead. So, I guess I thank everyone who did and is doing their part.
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Hans
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Captpete, That is interesting. What creatures are crawling at the bottom of the sea at 3000 feet ??
Hans
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Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOULD YOU DO IT AGAIN?
Buy another BUELL (Firebolt) if given a choice to buy a DUCATI 900SS instead?
Currently "shopping" ....; rider input would be appreciated.
THANKS.
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Josh
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Read the Firebolt vs 900SS on motorcycle.com for a good comparo.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anony,

I believe every single person who has purchased a Firebolt had the choice to buy a Ducati instead.
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Benm2
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting post, that EPA thing. However, note that it applies to FUTURE model years, not past or current. Since the cottage industries that produce aftermarket engine parts are already making parts for these machines, that will continue. Also, there are many, many ways to modify an engine to make more power that will NOT affect overall emissions, as witnessed by the number of worked Civics running around (that pass emissions tests in states that require them). For motorcycles with full bodywork, fitment of EGR systems would be transparent to the end user, but would significantly reduce NOX emissions. In addition, catalytic converters have been used on cars for years, and high-flow models are available. They could be used in combination with lower-restriction mufflers for a minimal loss in performance. And, "cat-back" exhaust systems are all the rage in the compact car scene, again where emissions targets still have to be met. These systems are made by the "cottage industries". Sorry for the long diatribe, but it seems there is a general misunderstanding of what pollution controls cost in terms of performance. For proof that performance can exist with controls, a current corvette is an excellent example. That car uses a pushrod V (sound familiar?) to produce "world class" performance while meeting US and CA emissions regulations. Okay, I'll put my soapbox away now.
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Ferris
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...it is a shame the guard gets a bad rap, the news makes it sound like we are a bunch of yuppies playing soldiers.

Cessna, i don't have that impression, nor does anyone that i know, nor do i hear that kind of talk on the news.

not trying to be disagreeable, just trying to convey my sincere appreciation to ALL who protect and defend our freedoms.

if i hear anyone "slamming" the National Guard, they WILL stand corrected.

FB
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Bomber
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cessna

Like Ferris said, sir . . . . . all who do the work and stand on the wall deserve the support of the rest of the country -- you, and your brothers and sisters, certainly have mine!

Thank you, C . . . .today, and everyday
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Eeeeek
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anony:

I don't even like the lil' bolt and I'd buy one over the 900SS. I've ridden both and this is my opinion:

Simplicity. As many problems as I've had with my X1, I've seen worse with Ducatis.

Power: About equal between the two.

Handling: Hands down, lil' bolt wins big here.

Refinement: I would give this to the Duc. Ducs are works of art.

Value: You get more bang for the buck with the lil' bolt.

So, the bolt is lighter, handles better, goes faster and has plenty of uniqueness. Between those two, the bolt is an easy winner. At the same time, I'd pick up a new ZX6R or R6 or CBR600F4i instead of either of those and I'm not a 600 fan, either...

Vik
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Roadrunr
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ASB ROCKS! "not to take away from the tragedy in which this day represents" but, Parts from my dealer? 2 weeks min. From ASB? 4 days.(coulda had em tomorrow..$) Thanks guys.
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Dave
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The nations security depends on the guard and the reserves ... it's all part of the total force concept. With the reduction of active duty military numbers, we rely on them to get the job done. They are everywhere and defending our nation. If the ROE (rules of engagement) orders visual presence but no weapon in some airport at a low threat checkpoint...that's all there is to it. It's a carefully calculated operational risk management. Go ahead and believe the no ammo rumors where it really needs to be...do ya feel lucky?

:)
DAve
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yup, Thanks to all of our armed forces. Dad, Grandpa and Grandpa were all military men, I was set to be a marine until diagnosed with diabetes in my early teens. Thanks again, you have my total respect and gratitude if you are or have been there to support our freedoms- that goes to our police and fire fighters too of course.

-Mike
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Dana
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake and Benmz

I still have the stock shock but I never got the upgraded aluminum torpedo warhead for it. The bike would be a menace to society.

Dana
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Benm2
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

dana:

I'll trade you my recall shock, torpedo & all, straight up for that penske!

BenM2
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Jester
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey are any of you attending the ASB Customer Appreciation BBQ in Vista, CA on the 22nd?

I am going to be in San Diego this week and just happen to have my bike with me so I am planning on it.


Jester
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Al_Lighton
Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll be at the ASB thing..but I live less than 10 minutes away. I could ride my mountain bike to it (but I'll take the S1W!)

Al
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Firemanjim
Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have some bbq for me ,Al then give Tat a bad time for planning it when we are gonna be at Bonneville.Watch for daily updates as we assault the Salt.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 05:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Capt,
Ditto what Jock said. Cool story. It would be nice if the fishermen could get together and regulate themselves eh? I'm sure the fishery will rejuvenate over time. Sea Bass are great eating fish.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 07:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ELFLY SPEAKING.......

If you have ordered TEAM ELVES fine textile goods, but have not paid yet be aware of the looming deadline.

On Monday, the 1/2 the balance of the remaining stock gets shipped to Bonneville, the other half to ASB to be placed for sale at the BBQ.

Quantities are VERY limited (as in about 25 shirts left) so act accordingly.

See you on The Salt!

Court
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Freyke
Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All,

Anybody got the Skinny on when we'll actually be able to see and touch an Lightning XB9S?

I'm jones'n to check one out... maybe even give up the beloved 98 S3....
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rumor has it sometime in November.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ask your local dealer(s) and let us know what they say. :)
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Cicadabike
Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buellers,
My 2000 S3 with 12K has stock exhaust and intake. I am considering replacing the stock muffler with the D & D slip-on. Would the addition of the just muffler likely affect performance? Would simultaneous alteration of the air intake system be necessary (advisable?) for performance to be enhanced?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jon
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Freyke
Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unfortunatley,

My local dealer is either clueless (arms akimbo) or playing it close to the vest....

kk//kef
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Ncbueller
Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jon:

IMHO the addition of a K & N air filter and the Race ECM would "wake" the bike up with the D & D slip on.

Ride Safe
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Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

XB9S Release Date.....My local dealer has given me 3 different dates.

Date #1: According to a factory "insider", they were supposed to see the first shipments in late September.

Date #2: According to another factory "insider", they should be arriving in October.

Date #3: The Buell Motor Company line: Sometime in the fourth quarter.

No matter when they ship, it will most likely be too late in the year for most of the country. IMHO, they should release new models in either mid-August to mid-September or wait until spring. There's no way I'll buy a new bike when the snow flying!!!!
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Sparky
Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll have to pass on ASB's BBQ too but only 'cause I'll be Elfin' it on the Salt trying to push a kitted Firebolt over 130.

ASB will be riding with me though. I installed their tall windshield last weekend in the hopes that I'll be able to tuck outta the wind blast somewhat. It works well at freeway speeds & above too by creating a relative low pressure area at the front of the helmet thus lessening neck strain.

Sparky
96S1, 98S3, 03NineR
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Rick_A
Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found rearsets for XB's...they also make 'em for S1/W and X1, M2 and S3...but those are very pricey. IMO they're the best I've seen.

http://www.satoracing.com/rearsetstop.htm
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