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Slaughter


Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I get a front wheel straightened and another set of forks,,, I dang near got it built...

Maaan... look out ebay!

(anybody got a blown top end Blast motor?)
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Jprovo


Posted on Sunday, November 28, 2004 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Go for it Steve, Let me know if you need a hand.
James
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You have our complete & undivided attention!
We'll keep our eyes open for what you need.
Engines and salvage bikes come up on ebay on a regular basis usually going for between $600-$1000.

Could you also use an XB engine with the rear cylinder blocked off?
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Slaughter


Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WEll...

When I bored out the XB racebike to 1164, I kept the old heads and jugs so could bolt that stuff to a Blast motor with probably less effort than trying to modify another XB motor.

I can see if Buell Racing has any Blast motors with fried top ends. Send the XB top end to Hals or Aaron for re-work.

Have to check the rules in a couple race classes and clubs to see what the different class restrictions are. Because I have a non-stock motor/frame combo, it might put me in the open singles category in most organizations - even at 500cc - so I may as well make it as big as I can.

Meanwhile this week the ebay search and phone calls start. This'll be a project with no deadline (the 2 other racebikes absorb all my spare money right now)
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Slaughter


Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well... except for the tie-in from the front cylinder to the rear and up into the frame, it's not all that too bad a project but not a bolt-in.

There is normally a yoke tying the front to rear cylinder in the XB which at it's top ties into the chassis with a link. That's a big thing to fabricate.
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Matty


Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a couple photos of Candice and I on the Bartells Blast. Let me tell you the thing HAULS and handles inexplicably well. I was pulling the XB's in the corners and would lose them on the straight. I didn't want to ride my bike anymore. The next project is this setup, but in a stock blast frame. blast
candy blast

(Message edited by ezblast on November 29, 2004)
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Ezblast


Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sweet! - How about a few pics of it standing still?
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Slaughter


Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah... after talking to Matty I really did some thinking about tossing a Blast motor into my XB leftovers.

Called Duga today at Buell Racing - and except that one funny bracket I'd have to fabricate, it'd be a fun project.
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Matty


Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cmon Ez, it's a race bike. It doesn't stand still!!! =)
It's a blast motor in a S1 Chassis and it freakin rocks. It feels 200 pounds lighter than it's twin cylindered brothers!
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Matty:

How about some good right and left side views of this BARTELL's "BLAST"... Front and rear shots would be nice too...

In BUELLing
LaFayette
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Reepicheep


Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Very cool! Wonder what would happen if you were to relocate a fuel cell in the hole where the other cylinder was (lowering center of gravity) and put in a downdraft intake.
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Slaughter


Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want people to notice that YES, if you look at Matty's pics, you CAN get Buellers out to the track!!!

Y'all oughta come out and visit (well, you CA-types)
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Mmelvis


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Matty, where did you get the belly pan for your bike. Did you fabricate your own ? Also do you know of someone who makes a race legal pan for the stock blast frame? That is so cool ... Have a great day
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Matty


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The M2 has the Buell bellypan, the Blast has one from a fairing that we found in the garbage at the track. A little cutting and painting and all is well. If you can find something to play with and chop up, you more than likely can figure out a way to mount one on your bike!
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Slaughter


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mmelvis - we have a totally crappy mold taken off a burned up plastic bellypan that we have fabricated a half dozen pieces out of.

If you promise to tell nobody where you got it, I can build you one. CAUTION - it's gonna be ugly until you sand/fill/paint it.
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Mmelvis


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Matty and Slaughter. I have burned up about 4 plastic belly pan. I have tried do some metal fabrication, thing weighs as much as a stock muffler. So Slaughter, how much to fab one up. I can fill and paint with no problem.
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Slaughter


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mmelvis,

I'll charge you double the going rate... free.

Anybody silly enough to race a Buell needs whatever support they can get.

you can email me your shipping preferences at home

email: qed2 ("at" thingy) mindspring (insert a dot) com
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Mmelvis


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Slaughter I get the same response at the track from folks..Your gonna race that that thing.
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Matty


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mmelvis,
What pipe are you using? Might be able to help you out there too.
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Ezblast


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Matty - I notice the underseat exhaust - is that a 4" Supertrapp, how long is the header, did you all design it simular to the flattracker XR exhausts? What mounting points did you use?
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Mmelvis


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Matty I have the Jardine pipe.

(Message edited by mmelvis on November 30, 2004)
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Matty


Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hrmm.. and you still melt the pans? I'd say line the things with some of that aluminized heat wrap stuff or firewall insulation. That should help a lot in preventing a meltdown on the Slaughter special.

The pipe was cobbled together from old broken stock tuber pipes and has 2 mounting points - 1 at the head and 1 at the muffler. As far as length and such, I have no idea but I'll get some details next time I'm down there.
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Mmelvis


Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Matty thanks, I just switched to the Jardine pipe, the Vance and Hines was the pipe doing all the melting. I am hoping the Jardine will not do the same thing. I will look into the insulation and the heat wrap. The pans I had been using were the abs plastic. Really got tired of scraping that stuff off the can. Have a great day
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Slaughter


Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

John - you've got a PM - my home computer is out for service so I'm email-challenged.
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Mmelvis


Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Slaughter you got a PM
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Slaughter


Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

John,

Tell you what - could you email me your shipping address to me at my work email - I'm not sure if I'll get my computer back at home today - if not, I may not be able to get my PM's or personal email.

work email: steve (insert dot thingy) slaughter (at thingy) lmco (another dot) com
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Mmelvis


Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Steve
Email sent as requested
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Matty


Posted on Friday, February 04, 2005 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's too quiet here! I'll try posting some pics of what I've been doing over the last couple days.

The idea is to get a Blast race bike going for less than $1000 - including purchasing the bike. Can it done? We'll find out! To start, I nabbed a Blast for $200, so we're off to a good start.


The frame is really tweaked and will take a bit of work to straighten up, but it can be done - it's just a question of money. It may be cheaper to get another frame. Stay tuned on that.

The head and cases took a beating as well. The front motor mounts broke out of the head and the front tie rod mount pulled off the case. A race head and piston/cylinder are ready and waiting to go. The case repairs aren't a problem

After a couple hours of cleaning and tearing the bike down, things didn't look too bad at all. This is going to be a fun project! The motor is going to Bartels for inspection while I get the chassis all figured out.

I stuck an M2 front end on for now, just for convenience. Looks good though!
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Matty


Posted on Friday, February 04, 2005 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is going to be a seriously fast and seriously fun Blast!
I have a few of goals to achieve with this project:
1. Build this thing for less than a grand
2. Make some naysayers eat crow =)
3. Get more Blast owners to come out of the woodwork and get to the track for track days and/or racing!

I'm starting from scratch here, so all the folks who already have a bike are 90% there!


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Blaster_s


Posted on Friday, February 04, 2005 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

More pictures please...
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