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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I must be in the minority but I've had the Palmer brackets on my bike for a couple of years (along with a Palmer windscreen) and have found it provides no real benefit. I could only find one position (all the way up and all the way forward, if I recall correctly) that actually reduced the wind reaching my helmet...but the windshield vibrates so badly in that position, I was afraid it would come apart in fifteen minutes (yes, I know Palmer offers additional supports, but I'm not interested in having additional stuff cluttering up my handlebars).

I'm going to ride the Uly from FL back to NYC in a few weeks and will probably remove the Palmer brackets before doing so. I'm considering going with no windshield at all.

Curious, for any of you who have done the same, what are you using to "plug" the mounting holes in the fly-screen? Just a nut and bolt?

TIA.

Tipsy
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Rwven
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe the same hardware that holds the Palmer brackets on would fill the holes, at least temporarily.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lowes/Home Depot both sell rubber and plastic plugs that would fit the holes.

I spoke with the Zero Gravity folks. They were willing to use the stock fairing to make a sans-windshield fairing for me. I wanted a fairing without holes and about an inch or inch and a half taller fairing (looks only).

The larger the windshield, the greater the turburlence. For me, no windshield and clean air provided the best solution. Then again, I'm not bothered by wind resistance.
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Then again, I'm not bothered by wind resistance.

The wind just gives up when it hits him!
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh to answer your question, Lowes/Home Depot etc, have little round black stick on furniture leg pads. Cheap and easy, they also come back off clean and mess free.

I have also used vinyl truck decal material. I sprayed some of my color on it and cut out little circles. Those are flush to the surface and barely visible.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tipsy, I currently am just running the flyscreen half of the palmer brackets with nothing attached to them. The windshield is sitting in my garage if I desire it again.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





Got some of these at Ace Hardware when I ran without the shield, they come in black or natural, take paint pretty well.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used reflective tape....

When the weather gets right I go windshieldless

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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys.

Tipsy
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Went windshieldless this weekend. High speed against the wind was a pain. I would not want to do 500+ mile of it.
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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Went windshieldless this weekend. High speed against the wind was a pain. I would not want to do 500+ mile of it.


The Uly is the only bike I've ever owned with a windshield. I'm used to riding in the wind.

Tipsy
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Went windshieldless this weekend. High speed against the wind was a pain.




The fix is lower bars to get you out of the wind. The Uly and Lightning bars turn you into a sail. Get some clubmans or clipons, enjoy the extra comfort from not fighting the wind or having extra strain on your arms. My back is happier too with my weight more forward on the airbox.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I actually went the OTHER way. Cold weather, I have a 14" CeeBailey. Warm weather, bare flyscreen with plugs from Home Depot, painted orange. But either way, I have 1" bar risers because I'm much more comfortable, and haven't noticed any change in wind resistance.

I'm 6'4". I grab wind no matter what ; ) I do notice a little more "push" on the torso without the windscreen, but I've ridden from here to WVBR, Buelltoberfest, Daytona, and Homecoming without a windscreen and haven't been fatigued or uncomfortable doing it. I'd rather have a steady push on my torso on long rides, than wind turbulence in my ears. (yes, I wear a fullface helmet...)
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tipsy, I have a 1999 KLR650 that I have ridden to Minnesota a couple of times. It has a small windshield, and puts you in the wind. Not as bad as nothing, but I'm used to being out there.

Froggy, Agree. Getting low helps a bunch. Did that on some high speed "passes" this weekend. When I went to Minnesota on my X1, the wind was not as bad as on the Uly. But I'm a bit on the "hefty" side, and staying that low for that long causes pain. Since I totaled the X1 and spent a month in the hospital, my arms and back can't take the strain over long distance's.

With just the fly screen on the Uly, 65mph against a strong wind is okay. But 80+ would wear on me. Now if going with the wind, it's much easier.
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Ejbeert
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know this is not what you asked but I seem to have 2 extra cents this morning.
I have a mad stad set up that I have used with buell standard and touring with the mad stad spider and a shorted cali sci shield. For me it all seemed to work better with memphis shade lowers. A search of this site has photos of lowers and braces for the wind shield. I dont feel I needed the braces
I know this is not what you asked just my 2 cents.
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Skiaddict
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/4 896/474/
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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/4 896/474/




When they come out with one in translucent blue, I'll buy it : )

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Itileman
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Try the well/compression nut mod on the screen. It will move the Palmer brackets out about 1/2". I've been riding in gale force winds for the past two weekends with good results. Along with the winds, I've had lots of rain, snow, sleet & hail, so the shield is a keeper.
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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2013 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know if old threads come back up top but I've finally removed the Palmer windshield and brackets (see classifieds).

Any new thoughts on a non-fugly way to plug the holes in the flyscreen?

Tipsy
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2013 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bump

Sorry I don't have an answer for you.
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Jstav2012
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2013 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just leave in the original grommets and plug them with some spare windshield pins that I bought. You could put some reflective tape and make it looks like stripes as another poster had suggested:
http://www.streetglo.net/image/tape%20blue%20gold. jpg
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Uly_man
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2013 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm 6'7" (no stick man either) and get NO buffeting with the std screen and a good full face helmet. 80 mph all day but over 100 mph it is notable. Thin air is much better though. I have had a Cee Bailey as well and did not like it.
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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2013 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I just leave in the original grommets and plug them with some spare windshield pins that I bought...




Not a bad idea but my original windshield is long gone. If I still had it, I'd probably pop it back on.

Tipsy
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Skifastbadly
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2013 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I replaced my 07 with an 08, the original owner had put some high-falutin' bracket based w/s on the bike. I hated it. Replaced with stock, happy ever since.

Well, as happy as I ever get, anyway.
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Dmcutter
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2013 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine came with the Palmer set up and I never really liked it...too much air under it and it really amplified the vibration. A couple weeks ago I slapped on the tall touring screen and generally liked it but I seemed to have a little buffeting on my helmet, so I switched back to the stock screen Saturday. Big mistake-now all the windblast is on my chest. I'm going back to the taller screen. I had lower Renthals on my first Uly for a more sporting forward oriented position, and I think that would get me low enough so I'm out of the noisy air zone.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2013 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a Uly tour w/s on Palmer brackets.
The chest blast was extremely annoying so I put some dense foam between the flyscreen and windshield.

It kills the wind blast to my chest and gives me a "dashboard".
Sorry no pix ATM

Z
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Tootal
Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2013 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think Ejbeert had the answer for wind blast. I've got a Madstad and it does ok but the wind that I still feel is coming from under the handlebars and blowing up my helmet. It blows the top of a two piece rain suit up too! I think the Memphis shades is what's needed to combat the turbulence. When I had the stock shield I liked it in the Summer. Quiet and no buffeting even though the wind was hitting my chest. In the cooler months it's a lot warmer with the Madstad up and out! Just wear ear plugs!
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Arcticktm
Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2013 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Madstad, or through Twisted Throttle, sells a front flyscreen with no holes in it.
A lot of money to pay for no holes, though at about $74 IIRC. It used to be aluminum, but now is a thick plastic.
I bought it and drilled smaller than stock holes to mount just the bolts for my Palmer brackets that I use with touring Buell screen and a Laminar Lip. Works for me pretty well.
In hot weather, I swap out the entire flyscreen for the stock one that still has the grommets for the stock screen.
I did that after ruining a grommet swapping them in and our to go between the 2 screen setups.
I am 6' 4" with 36" inseam.
Stock low screen blocks wind from center of chest down, but has helmet in clean air.
Palmer fully up with the touring shield and laminar lip on it just gets the air to the top of my helmet, with just a little buffeting.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2013 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You could also leave the stock windscreen (which I like in the summer) and put on other stuff for the winter, that's my approach.

http://badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/66 8497.html?1329488405

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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Friday, November 22, 2013 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Found these nylon plugs at Ace Hardware. They're 9/16" and I used a little clear silicone to secure them.

If anyone is interested in my adjustable Palmer setup, it's in the classifieds.

Tipsy

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Advoutlander
Posted on Friday, November 22, 2013 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a zero gravity touring windshield. I am thinking about purchasing the palmer bracket with the brace. They also sell a piece to fit between the flyscreen and windshield. Has anyone tried one of these, is it worth it?
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Arry
Posted on Friday, November 22, 2013 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"...original windshield is long gone. If I still had it, I'd probably pop it back on."
Have you checked to see if they're still available thru a HD/Buell dealer. Mine came with the optional taller windshield, and it works/looks good, deflecting most of the wind blast.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2013 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a tall Zero Gravity, Buell's tall shield, and a Cee Baileys 15" tall windshield, but I went back to the original Buell short windshield that came stock on the 2006 model.

If it's really cold out I'll throw on the Cee Baileys shield but it gives me a headache with all the wind hitting me on the top of my head! I'd almost rather not ride with that shield on.
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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2013 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Have you checked to see if they're still available thru a HD/Buell dealer. Mine came with the optional taller windshield, and it works/looks good, deflecting most of the wind blast.


I really don't want one that bad. I've been riding all week with no windshield and it's perfectly enjoyable.

Tipsy
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