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Archive through September 26, 2009Electraglider_199730 09-26-09  01:16 pm
         

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Treadmarks
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Beard,

I connected it to the factory fan connector plug and added another connector near the front of the Left side scoop which allows for easier removal in the winter and simple installation in th summer. It gets it's signal from the engine cooling fan and runs whenever it does.

Relax Blake.These fans pinwheel quite easily and the relocated air scoop allows for a bigger gulp. They only come on when the ECU tells them too.

Howdy Brother EG. Thanks man! I bought the Jagg unit but never made the swap. You see...I bought this temperature dipstick thingy from some cool dude here on the boards. With the new dipstick, I could now tell that with the unit in stock form my oil in the swing arm would be around 215-220 after my ride home everyday. With the chiller mod installed and connected to the factory engine cooling fan I have never observed the temp over 200, mostly around 190-195. And when the fans come on they only run for a minute or two then shut off when the ECU tells them to. I figured since my oil temp was controlled so much better-why bother going to the the next level. At .39 amps each and a shorter regulated runtime I figured running after the key was off wasn't an issue for me. Besides, it sounds pretty darn cool when it is shutdown and all 3 fans are howling in stereo.



*Note* In all fairness, I have had a rcrins RSS on the bike for 3 years so it is possible that chunks of ice may have been falling onto my engine temp sensor and skewing my findings. YMMV
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Relax yourself.

I repeat: So while beneficial at a stop or in parade mode, the effects on oil temp for lengthy high speed runs could be seriously problematic.

In my view you found a solution to a problem that doesn't exist but may well have created one.

One comment on Electraglider's old comments about pressure loss: The oil pump is constant volume. That means that any additional restriction to oil flow will not reduce pressure downstream; it will increase pressure upstream. The same flow rate of oil will be maintained. That is the beauty of a constant volume pump.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"These fans pinwheel quite easily"

In human terms I'm sure that is true. But that is not applicable.

In terms of disruption to cooling airflow at speed versus the OEM configuration, I suspect there is a very significant degradation. It just doesn't take a lot to degrade airflow.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Terry,
What does a pair of those fans cost and where did you buy them? I think you have a fine idea there that needs propagation. You made that bracket yourself or is that something that you bought?

I worked as an engineer for AT&T, Lucent, and Avaya at their wire and cable plant here in Omaha. We had more extruders than you shake a stick at. I remember the fans controlling the temps zones quite well in tandem with thermocouples. We made zillions of feet of wire and cable for the telecommunications industry.

(Message edited by electraglider_1997 on September 26, 2009)
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Bearddevil
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Treadmark - Thanks for the info. Is there any chance you could post a pic of the wiring connectors? Failing that, know where I can get a set of the 2-pin deutsch connectors to make my own harness plug-in?
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Treadmarks
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EG, The fans are sofasco units 60mm. I just ordered from their web sight and they were 15 bucks each.

The bracket is 1" aluminum angle. One hole on the back of each fan (not used) will need to be cut and trimmed for clearance of the mounting bracket.

Bear, I just used the environmental push lock crimp and shrink connectors.

Blake, Who am I to question or modify the factory OEM configuration? I am the owner. The end user. The one who has to call a tow truck in alaska when my wheel bearings went out. The one whose leg feels the heat when I get stuck in traffic. I reread this thread, and not once did i find someone asking "well I wonder what Blake thinks". Heck, I doubt you even own a uly.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Terry,
Thanks for the information and on another note, "you crack me up".

(Message edited by electraglider_1997 on September 27, 2009)
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Slipknot
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Treadmarks, can you give us the exact model of the fan? I'm finding several 60mm fans.

Thanks
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Slipnot,
Tread specified above that it was a 7,000 rpm 60mm fan and it has an accessory metal guard.
That would make it model #D6025V12SH-03
http://www.sofasco.com/products/dc_axial/d602503.h tml

And the metal guard is model #G60 for 60mm fans.
http://www.sofasco.com/products/accessories/metal_ fan_guards.html
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Slipknot
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Electraglider.
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Murraebueller
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hope you're getting enough heat in the oil to burn off the crap that precipitates out after you shut the bike down.
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