| Author | Message | ||
     Cecil1 |
Hi! Just bought a 2000 Blast and have been having a hard time locating a good quality plug for this year (everyplace seems to list 2001 & up). We were thinking about iridium, anyone out there able to steer us in the right direction? Thanks! | ||
| Ezblast |
IX27B or IXU01-27 - http://www.sparkplugs.com/ GT - JBOTDS! EZ  | ||
| Andymnelson |
EZ- You're running the "racing" iridium, correct? (IXU01-27) What is truly the difference? Does it last as long? For someone like me with stock internals, a K&N, 45/180 jets and shimmed needle and Vance & Hines pipe...what would you recommend based on your experience? | ||
| Ezblast |
Haven't had to replace the Racing Iridium - still looks new, a bit darker on the edges - lol - practically impossible to foul, and the difference is noticeable - something I've not noticed even with the regular Iridium - If you want a plug that will last - and not have to worry about, then the IXU01-27 is the ticket. Seperate note - I would go down to 175 main for your setup. EZ | ||
| Andymnelson |
Cool thanks. I'll get one of those soon. I was wondering about the 180 vs 175. I bought both...and it's obviously an easy change. It doesn't feel like it's running rich at all (heck, it runs the same with and without the filter!), but I was planning on running it a couple of weeks before changing the plug and then reading the plug when I change it. Maybe I'll swap the jet sooner and see how she does... Thanks again. | ||
| Blastofrage |
will bike shops sell this plug or will i be better off odering online? | ||
| Ezblast |
Better off ordering on line - the shops tend to add more money to the price. EZ | ||
| Bottlefedbuell |
So, went and checked out the Motorcycle show at the former Novi Expo center. Not a bad time. Was hoping Flo was gonna show (The Progressive Chick). Unfortunately she did not. While there, the Autolite guys had a booth set up, and gave me a handfull of their new Xtreme Sport Iridium Plugs. Was wondering if anyone has had a chance to check these out yet. They are only iridium 'Enhanced', so they are quite a bit cheaper than the Denso style ones, @$7/each. They gave me the XS4164's, which I have yet to make sure are right. But if anything, I have 5 spare plugs now. | ||
| Ezblast |
Heat range is 6 to 7, needs to be 9 - sorry that plug is a no go for a Blast. EZ (Message edited by ezblast on January 17, 2011) | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Somehow, I knew you'd know!  | ||
| Bottlefedbuell |
Well, thats a bummer. Big heat difference ! Maybe they will work in my little go-kart. darn thing always fouls plugs. lol Thanks EZ.. | ||
| Bottlefedbuell |
So after checking out autolite web page, they list this plug as correct for the thumpers. I will have to wait until this wonderful winter weather subsides for a couple days to check it out for sure, but I'm hoping it is correct. What are the symptoms of running a plug that is that much hotter than recommended? | ||
| Ezblast |
That autolite cross reference is for 2000 Blasts before the sparkplug revisions that All Buell and Sporster, and several other models had - from 6R12 to 10R12A - see note in recall section - and if you look up that plug on sparkkplugs.com you'll see the heat range that needs to be in the 9 area is in the 4 area, therefor not safe for a Blast - that is a hot a heat range and will in time blow the motor - no if, and or buts about it - you do what you want. Several plug companies did that, but only 2 out of five corrected. EZ (Message edited by ezblast on January 12, 2011) | ||
| Ezblast |
Fact is all HD/Buell products are in the 9 heat range standard of a 10R12/10R12A per a set of Bulletins, including the Rotax 1125 engines. EZ | ||
| Ezblast |
http://sparkplugs.com/results_cross.asp?pid=10R12A &x=71&y=16&seenCrossWarning=1 http://sparkplugs.com/charglossary.asp?kw=Heat+ran ge The cooler corect plug general number for Autolite is 4162 - which also lists Buells and is the cooler more recent updated recommendation - sorry - really - that plug is too hot. If there are two different recommendations for Buell, knowing that Buells should have a cooler heat range, pick the cooler range and you'll be golden. When you do cross reference from the cooler plug number you will get this - http://sparkplugs.com/results_cross.asp?pid=4162&c rossManID=33&mfid= Hit the "ok" button and voila - a list of every available plug that will safely work in a Blast. EZ (Message edited by ezblast on January 15, 2011) | ||
| Ezblast |
equivalent to Autolite - 4162: Note: Sure - the solinoid cap screws on, holding the ceramic in place, add a drop of red locktite to the bottom area where solinoid cap screws down holding the ceramic in place - thus allowing locking down of ceramic and cap, just don't locktite the whole solinoid, or any other parts pertaining to the sparkplug - that would be bad. Spark Plugs Denso Iridium Racing Plug 5731 IXU01-27 $35.30 Spark Plugs Denso Iridium plug 5377 IX27B $9.99 NGK Spark Plug Obsolete, Roll Over Part For Replacement 3854 DPR9EVX-9 Splitfire Obsolete TP416B TP416B Spark Plugs Bosch Bosch Silver Spark Plug 7700 XR2CS $2.89 NGK Gold palladium 1230 DPR9EV-9 $0.99 Spark Plugs Denso Traditional spark plug 4111 X27EPR-U9 $2.89 NGK Traditional spark plug 5129 DPR7EA-9 $2.89 NGK Traditional spark plug 5329 DPR9EA-9 $2.89 Splitfire Obsolete Plug, Click "More Info" for Replacement SF416B SF416B Is what it says right now - lol - all equivalent to the 10R12A except one equal to HD/Buells old 6R12 plug the DPR7EA-9 which would be popular to the drag/short-circuit type race engine. I would never recommend this plug for street usage. EZ (Message edited by ezblast on January 18, 2011) | ||
| Ezblast |
Latest plug info! EZ | ||
| Kauai1800 |
Hey Ez...I know you are the man regarding spark plugs. I bought a NGK Iridium DCPR8EIX off of eBay (and w/o checking here first). I've now read the threads stating that the 8 heat range is too hot, but is it really gonna damage my engine? I see NGK recommends this plug for the Blast; I know you think it's too hot, and I see that there's roughly a 70-100ºC difference between a 8 and a 9 plug. Was there a history of problems with the 8-rated plug? I just wanted to know what the basis of choosing the 9 over the NGK-recommended 8 was....thanks! | ||
| Ezblast |
9 is the factory heat range which is correct and safe. The 8 is hotter. I'd trade them out for the 9's if I where you. EZ | ||
| Johneblast |
EZ, I'm looking at the E3.36 spark plug which is used for twin-cams. Do you know anything about them? I'm still digging for information but have yet found there heat range. When I do, I'll post the information. | ||
| Johneblast |
I found E3's cross reference table and sure enough, they crossed with HD. Now the E3.36 crossed with (and this may be an old table) the 6R12 and the HD6R12. Nothing mentioned of the 10R12AorX. I've got a 10R12X that is due for change. I'm not going to assume the heat range is good just yet! | ||
| Johneblast |
Ok, the research is complete! The E3.36 plug made by E3 has the Blast (01-2008) listed on there roster of many a vehicle. Now that I have put it in, a road test is in the works. E3 for the P3! That couldn't have been planned! | ||
| Johneblast |
All's good in this neighborhood!  | ||
| Ezblast |
Not if the heat range is the same as 6R12 - to hot - will blow the motor - have fun! EZ | ||
| Johneblast |
I sent an email to the company asking for a heat range and will probably get an answer on Monday. I'll keep my fingers crossed that the plug will get me out to Brentwood in the morning and back home. | ||
| Ezblast |
Funny - I will be doing a loop of Marsh Creek to Lone Tree back to Antioch and home from church in Concord tomorrow. Best of luck! EZ | ||
| Johneblast |
Too funny and ironic! First to Concord to pick up my autistic son for a ride out to Brentwood to meet his sister at church! I'll keep you posted on how the bike acts heat wise. So far the performance on a short run yesterday was good. | ||
| Ezblast |
Short runs are ok, but where the bike can get hot is risky. EZ | ||
| Johneblast |
Being that my commute during the week is only 20 miles round trip, I think I will experiment until I hear word from E3 concerning the heat range of the plug. If it blows, it will give me a reason to try a modify. I was getting pre-ignition spark with the 10r12x when the bike was hot at start ups when cruising around town, and during the run today out to Brentwood, it didn't do it. So far it and the new boot have the bike running good. About the 10R12x, I noticed on your spark plug update that you listed it as a 10R12A. Are their multiples of this plug? Perhaps the dealer gave me the wrong one of the series? | ||
| Johneblast |
Got a response from E3. They asked what plug I swapped out. Should get more info tomorrow. Get the feeling they are dancing around the initial question of the heat range of the E3.36 as that was the question. |
