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Court
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 05:21 am: |
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If an internet forum told you to jump off a cliff.....would you? -Mom Canfield - circa 1955 |
Darthane
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 06:15 am: |
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LOL...some people, I swear. Just goes to show that Americans aren't the only gullible one in the world market. Bryan |
Tripper
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 06:53 am: |
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So Mom Canfield dreamed up the internet, then whispered in Al Gore's ear? |
Glitch
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 07:58 am: |
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Since I'm a new Buell fanatic, I was just curious. Were there these types of rumors going around about the Tube Framed Buells being discontinued? Just wondering about what was going around before the Firebolt was released. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 09:41 am: |
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Not that I remember. They just sort of dropped a bomb on us. |
Blake
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 10:12 am: |
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I recall when some HD dealership employees with heartfelt sincerity and an air of authority confided in me that HD would soon be quitting <font size="+1">Buell</font>. The last time I heard that was just before the announcement of the Firebolt almost two years ago. At the same time, those same souls refused to believe that HD would soon be coming out with a water cooled OHC model. I think some of them are still walking around shell shocked in denial, their entire world turned upside-down. LOL! |
Aaron
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 10:27 am: |
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Probably the same ones telling you synthetic oil was bad for a Harley. |
Mikej
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 10:33 am: |
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Bombs are bad, Buells are good. |
Glitch
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 12:29 pm: |
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So then maybe... Absence of rumors = big change? Rampant rumors = more rumors? It's kinda neat though, that Buell would cause such speculation, and the big J4, get the "What?! no changes this year for (place model here) ... the reviews won't be good..." Buell Different in Every Sense
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Jim_m
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 01:09 pm: |
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I would love to see an M2 replacement. I'm talking about a simple seat change on a Lightning, maybe a different headlight/fairing to help differentiate(sp?). The only additional cost would be the headlight set up, but they could keep the Lightning's existing set up, and use the rear subframe and tailsection from 'Bolt. no additional cost as far as R&D, and you have a 2 up naked bike. (Message edited by jim_m on May 23, 2003, %time) (Message edited by jim_m on May 23, 2003, %time) |
Davegess
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 01:44 pm: |
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Me I think we MIGHT see a cheaper bolt like an M2 and perhaps a touring type bike with a bigger motor that will give more torque but not much more power 'cause it will rev less and it will weigh more with the touring stuff. The 9 will remain the performance king of the Buell line. People will continue to want a 1200 instead of the 1000 but unless Buell can make the 1200 rev high enough and stay together is won't happen. Just a guess, we will see how it all comes out in July or august. |
Sarodude
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 01:57 pm: |
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Dave- Don't you mean it's just a Gess? sorry - couldn't resist -Saro |
Nevco1
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 02:32 pm: |
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I gave up speculating and am really looking forward to seeing what is new for 2004. Will be a good indicator about how much user boards like this are considered in the development of a strategic marketing plan. Talk's cheap and tooling ain't. Proliferating a line too much can place undue financial strain on the manufacturer and cause a demise which is something none of us want to see happen to Buell. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 02:46 pm: |
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"Talk's cheap and tooling ain't." Great line! |
Nevco1
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 08:17 pm: |
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Gee, might have been a good line but I didn't mean to kill the thread with it. |
Court
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 06:17 am: |
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Actually, Al Gore and Mom Canfield would NOT get along. Course...the last one of her friends I met in the kitchen started a war and so did his son. Just goes to show. Hootowl: Great quote that says it all! Rumors?..my favorite is when our own in house pundit and frequent poster lamented, early last November, that Buell had "halted production of the XB9S". It was November 8th that 14 folks from Badweb stood there in safety glasses watching Mike Juliano and staff bust ass to get 28 off the line that day. |
Northern_blast
| Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 12:28 am: |
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just got a harley mag in the mail the new 2004 H-D'S and buell product line will be showcased at Sturges we will all half to wait till august |
Dynarider
| Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 01:08 pm: |
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The mag says, all of the Buell lineup & "select" Harley models will be at Sturgis. The rest of the Harley lineup..ie any new models..will be unveiled at the 100th in Milwaukee. |
Groundscrew
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 09:30 pm: |
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I believe I have seen a test mule running around here. Firebolt front, lightning rear,all different colored panels( yellow gray black blue).
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Sgtbuell
| Posted on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 01:25 am: |
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The other day I was at my dealership getting an oil change and struck up a conversation with one of the Harley mechanics about the Firebolt. The guy said he loved the bike and has been hearing hugh rumors about a 1300cc bolt on kit for the current Firebolt. Now I don't know if this is even feasible, but could this be whats in store for the 2004 Firebolt. |
Blublak
| Posted on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 08:43 pm: |
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Ok.. No real facts here.. but just to stir up the pot a little.. NEWS FLASH: SECRET INSIDERS AT BUELL MOTORCYCLES ANNOUNCED A SECRET DEAL TO UNLEASH A NEW MODEL FOR 2004 1/2 .. THIS NEW MOTORCYCLE WILL FEATURE A 350CI 45* V-8 MOTOR WITH DIDLEMS (DEDICATED INTELLIGENT DIGITAL LEARNING ENGINE MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS) GIVING THE MACHINE AN AWE INSPIRING 300RWHP WHILE ENSURING A 75MPG RATING. THE BIKE WILL BE BASED ON THE CURRENT XB DESIGN ONLY IT WILL BE DIFFERENT (of course). A TOURING MODEL USING A 700HP TURBINE ENGINE WILL BE OFFERED SOMETIME IN MID 2005. THE INITIAL BIKE, CURRENTLY UNNAMED BUT CALLED THE 'NEW BIKE' WILL HAVE AN MSRP IN THE $700.00 - $200,000.00 RANGE. THAT WAY IT WILL COMPETE WITH ANY AND ALL OTHER BIKES IN ANY CLASS. THE 'NB' WILL ALSO HAVE A 90* LEAN ANGLE, HAVE A CRUISING SPEED OF 287MPH AND HAVE A NEWLY DESIGNED GYROSCOPIC SENSOR SYSTEM TO AVOID THE POSSIBILITY OF THE MACHINE LOOSING IT'S GRIP ON THE PAVEMENT. TO APPEAL TO ALL MARKET SECTORS THE BIKE WILL TRANSMIT POWER THROUGH A 21 SPEED TRANSMISSION. OPERATIONS AND OTHER HIGHLY TECHNICAL STUFF WILL BE TRANSMITTED OVER THE INTERNET TO THE MACHINES BUILT IN PDA, THIS WAY AVOIDING LONG DELAYS IN NOTIFYING THE CUSTOMER. INTERNET ACCESS, COLOR SCREEN AND 8 SPEAKERS WILL BE CONCEALED WITHIN THE 'NAKED' SPORTING BIKES DESIGN. A SATELLITE TELEPHONE SYSTEM IS ALSO INCLUDED FOR BOTH LOCAL AND LONG DISTANCE CALLING AS WELL AS WEB BROWSING. MICROSOFT ANNOUNCED IT WILL SUPPLY ALL THE SOFTWARE, OR ELSE. NO TIRES WILL BE USED AS THE MACHINE WILL RIDE ON UNBOLIEVIUM SKIDS THAT DEFY GRAVITY. THERE WILL BE THREE COLOR CHOICES: PUKE GREEN, URINE YELLOW AND BUG GUTS METAL FLAKE. THE BUELL INSIDER ALSO ANNOUNCED THAT ALL PREVIOUS MOTORCYCLES (from all manufactures) WILL CEASE PRODUCTION, AS WILL ALL FACTORY AND AFTERMARKET PARTS AND SERVICE SUPPORT. ALL DEALERS (regardless of marqee) WILL CARRY AND SUPPORT ONLY 'NEW BIKE' SALES, SERVICE AND MERCHANDISE. You know this is true, since you've read it on the internet.. Now.. isn't all this speculation interesting? Hope ya'll smiled.. Later. |
Blackbelt
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 01:05 pm: |
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wouldn't you sh(^ your pants if that happened? hehehe so what else does your crystal ball say about the future? possibly the Lottery. hehehehhe |
Court
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 09:15 pm: |
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Spy Photo |
S320002
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 09:23 pm: |
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Following Buells multi-function component philosophy the spare tire doubles as a NOX tank. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 11:44 pm: |
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Court, Are they taking down payments on those yet? Puke Green please, with the 700 HP turbine option. I want to melt some bumpers! edited by hootowl on June 16, 2003 |
Peter
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 01:44 am: |
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You don't have them everywhere? |
Ray_maines
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 07:13 am: |
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Not over here. A man has to be very secure in his masculinity to be seen riding a scooter. |
Blublak
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 07:27 am: |
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ROFLMAO!!! Court I love it!! This has got to be the machine!! HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE... Oh My... I gotta sit down.. Oh, I am.. Oh man.. I gotta stand up... Thanks for that pic, it goes with my 'news' perfectly.. Ahhhh.. I owe you a cold one if we're ever in the same place at the same time Later. |
Road_thing
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 08:52 am: |
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You know, I can't be sure, but that guy on the scooter looks kinda like Henrik... ...if that doesn't make him grumpy, nothing will... r-t |
Jim_m
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:04 pm: |
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Dave has updated his blog http://www.davegess.com/buellhist/blogger1.html ( ) with two entries...one regarding Ducati's GP win (hell of a thing to do in the time frame they've had) and thoughts on Buell's next model... I would agree with most of the points, except for detuning the XB motor. What is currently there is perfect for street riding (from my limited experience on my demo rides). If BMC were to detune the motor for an XB9M, I think it would flop...BMC does not need a sub 70 BHP bike, especially for a JOAT type of bike. Keep the state of tune and add the conventional wheels, brakes, and a little cheaper suspension. Detuning the motor should not be a consideration though. IMO, of course |
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