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Froggy
| Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 12:48 am: |
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quote:Nuclear is great but no one wants one in their backyard including storing the waste...
I got one in my backyard, and I live in the 9 mile contamination zone should something happen. I couldn't care less. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 01:00 am: |
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I got one in my backyard, and I live in the 9 mile contamination zone should something happen. I couldn't care less. Yeah, and look how you turned out. |
Froggy
| Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 01:06 am: |
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That must mean you were born in Chernobyl |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 01:21 am: |
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Actually, I'm from Kansas. Explains a lot, don't it? I live within 100 miles of two reactors and less than 200 miles from Oak Ridge. |
Court
| Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 06:17 am: |
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>>>>Nuclear is great but no one wants one in their backyard Which is what I love about the deal. For 3 generations my family has been building overhead electrical transmission lines from the days my Grandfather had a mule and a gin pole system to set structures up through my dad being the first contractor to use the Sikorsky sky-crane to set structures and sting wire. I too am from Kansas and built most the lines from Wolf Creek and Callaway Nuclear plants . . . I've never heard of a single thing coming from either but efficient energy. I'm not smack dab in the throes of one of America's largest utilities that just got a 22% (each of our customers had over a $100 / month rate increase) rate increase, is scrambling to execute a $7,000,000,000 construction program, is woefully lacking and looking for contractors and is loosing ground each day. The electricity crisis will be the oil crisis of the 2010 years absent getting past some of the ill-green based pseudo-fears about Nuclear. Just a thought. . . . frankly my personal interests, to be honest, are better served the longer they wait. |
Kilroy
| Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 06:36 am: |
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What TMI proved was that you could have the ultimate nuclear disaster - a partial core meltdown - and suffer no significant ill effects outside the containment building. Everything was educated guesswork and experimentation before that. No one could build a scale model and perform a core meltdown to test this stuff. This was real world proof that this $hit is safe (and we don't need to bring up Chernobyl when talking about western design nuclear plants, it is a completely different, and obviously flawed design). TMI should have been the best thing to ever happen to nuclear power in the US, but the spinsters, media, and tree huggers turned it into nuclear's downfall, and we are all paying for it now. |
Brumbear
| Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 07:50 am: |
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Who says I was talking about us We means the World not just the US |
Kilroy
| Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 08:17 am: |
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So what you are saying Brumbear, is since the dumba$$ Russians use graphite for a moderator (something that burns) we should all abandon the technology? (western designs use water and Boron by the way). If the North Koreans and Iranians choose to use hay as a moderator, should we then abandon our nuclear power plants? Western designed nuke plants are unbelievably safe, with almost ridiculous numbers of redundant safety systems and processes. To say we need to throw it all away for what other morons do with it is assenine. |
Brumbear
| Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 08:24 am: |
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pretty much yea but I would not be happy to say I told you so How can you actually think this could happen without an F up We have not learned 1 lesson from history we just have to stepping on ourJohnsons until it's to late I was thinking more the Chionese though as they also tend to copy things and do no QC or RnD |
Ironken
| Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 09:58 am: |
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I am not for nuclear, but, Chernobyl probably would still be running if it weren't for a test gone terribly wrong followed by a series of bad decisions. So I've read anyway. BTW I know about as much about nuclear as I do about brain surgery. Nuclear energy doesn't scare me, nor does the technology. What scares me is large companies trying to cut corners on handling waste. About the time I moved to Needles, there was a push to store nuclear waste in the desert outside Needles. One large problem was that the proposed site sat atop Californias largest aquifer.....ooops! The laws and controls are there for safe storage, but, when corporate greed mixes in....I worry! |
Swordsman
| Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 11:07 am: |
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Hell, China would probably welcome a lil' meltdown... it'd be a fantastic excuse for some "accidental" population control. ~SM |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 11:38 am: |
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I've generally been a proponent of nuclear power most of my life. The only thing that's ever concerned me about it is some of the reports issued by the Cato Institute (a Libertarian thinktank). They claim nuclear power is to republicans like solar power is to democrats; neither energy source is economically viable without huge government subsidies. Any time politics gets tied up in a highly technical question like this it becomes near impossible to get a straight answer. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 02:23 pm: |
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""NU-KLI-UR"" It's newk-you-ler dumb a$$, the "s" is silent. ...Peter Griffin. |
2008xb12scg
| Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 05:16 pm: |
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I want a Nuke bike |
Ducxl
| Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 05:18 pm: |
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Check out the KIDD OF SPEED biker chick who rides through the exclusion zone that is Chernyobyl. I'm for Nuclear power generation.Accidents though,can ruin the landscape for 10000 years.Could we abandon NYC for that long? |
Brumbear
| Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 05:52 pm: |
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thats fing scary stuff right there and greed would go us in eventually |
Darthane
| Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 09:39 am: |
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The answer, no. Part of the answer, yes. ...just like the evils of off-shore drilling, the crazy left-wingers have blown the 'dangers' of nuclear power all out of proportion. It makes me sick to be part of the silent majority when the vocal minorities rule this f-ing country. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 10:32 am: |
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Check out the KIDD OF SPEED biker chick who rides through the exclusion zone that is Chernyobyl. I'm for Nuclear power generation.Accidents though,can ruin the landscape for 10000 years.Could we abandon NYC for that long? The pictures on her site are striking, but I don't think you can equate Chernobyl with Watts Bar just because they are both nuclear reactors. Are there differences in design between reactor types? Are there benefits and risks of one type over another? Why are naval nuclear reactors more dependable? You can't throw all cars out the window just because a Yugo is a bag of crap. There are good designs and bad designs, good technology and bad technology. |
Court
| Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 10:34 am: |
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By the way . . . that bike through Chernyobl thing, as I recall, was long ago dismissed as a hoax. |
Bomber
| Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 10:54 am: |
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+1 -- very much urban myth territory -- most who believed it wanted to |
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