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Tripper
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 08:12 am: | 
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Curiosity can kill cats.... |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 08:44 am: |
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I'm using the old bolts. I'd rather replace the isolators more often than use those accursed torx bolts. I hate them. I'm using the word -hate- here. |
Spiderman
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 10:09 am: |
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Not saying it isn't Court just trying to verify a suspision. <sp>
I'm with Hoot I had to replace the Isolators on a newer model with torx bolts and those Bolts SUCK. The bit slipped out 3 times before I got a good torque reading. |
Aaron
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 10:24 am: |
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Someday we're gonna catch up with the guy who invented torx. He'll be accosted by 1000 angry riders who will torque his navel down to 100 ft/lbs with a torx head bolt and then round s.o.b. off so he can't remove it. |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 10:29 am: |
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Oh, we can still remove it. We'll have to drill it out. |
Mikej
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 10:33 am: |
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http://www.memagazine.org/backissues/dec02/features/noturn/noturn.html
quote:Torx fasteners originated in the late 1960s, when the Camcar division of Textron developed the design to overcome some of the limitations of other screw styles. The Torx design resisted cam-out better than did Phillips screws. It also reduced the drive angle to 15 degrees from the high 60-degree angle of hexagonal socket head screws or the still higher 90-degree angle of the square socket, or Robertson, screw.
quote:Torx Plus doesn't mean that you'll have to start buying new bits. In fact, unless you're a mechanic working for a General Motors or Harley-Davidson dealer, you can't. It's simply too early in the service cycle, Tripp said. It may be a while before all 170,000 retailers that sell Torx bits stock the new design. But acceptance of the design—which won patent protection in 1992—is growing at a quicker rate than it did for the predecessor, Tripp said.
For now, backward compatibility ensures that an old T-50 bit will take out a new 50IP screw. The newer bits won't fit the older screws.
edited by mikej on July 10, 2003
edited by mikej on July 10, 2003 |
Mikej
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 10:49 am: |
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http://www.memagazine.org/contents/current/features/thehorse/thehorse.html
(A little history link for later retrieval since I'm here.) |
Tripper
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 03:18 pm: |
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I don't remember saying anything about torx... |
Mikej
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 03:20 pm: |
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That's alright, sometimes tangenital threads take on a life of their own.  |
Ray_maines
| | Posted on Friday, July 11, 2003 - 07:05 pm: |
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Quoting the quote:
"The Torx design resisted cam-out better than did Phillips screws."
I should hope so! Phillips screws were invented to be used by machines and were designed to let the bit slip out after some certain amount of torque. I hope Torque is the word I want. I could mean rear wheel horsepower for all I really know. Aaron will straighten me out. |
Road_thing
| | Posted on Friday, July 11, 2003 - 10:06 pm: |
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>>We'll have to drill it out.<<
Yes, with a rusty 3/4" bit.
Slowly.
From the back.
r-t
I'm not fond of Torx,either! |
Hoser
| | Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 01:10 am: |
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I happen to like Torx fasteners , the bolts in question here are T60 , the torque has been reduced to 70 ft/lbs from the 1/2" allen head bolts in earlier bikes which was 105 ft/lbs. Make sure you use the correct tool , the screws will come out ( if some ham fist has not stripped them ), I usually use an impact gun to remove them , works every time for me , having done it dozens of times !! . Use quality tools too or you will make a whole lot of more work for your self !! cheapo tools will do damage , the T60 - 1/2" drive socket I bought from Snapon a couple of years ago has been used lots ! with an impact and by hand and shows no sign of wear nor has it ever damaged a bolt.
I have seen whining here about the clutch cover screws , those are T27 , very common on XB's and often confused with T25 , resulting in more damage and cussing after tearing the tip off the only bit around and nicely engraving the cover when the tool dances across the surface. |
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