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Swampy
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, Welcome to the Thumper Forum Goodfoot!

You will find that the Blast likes afew things:

A rich mixture(Follow the directions about adjusting the Idle mixture screw, Primary jet replacement, main jet replacement, and Needle shimming)
A loosly adjusted primary(Leave it alone for a couple of thousand miles)
And a long break in period. (The Blast will take almost 4000 miles before it starts to run in its sweet spot)
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Goodfoot: being still in the break in process you arent getting the revs up to anywhere near its power band. The Blast is really a slug during those first 500 miles, so I'm not really sure if you have a problem or if its just sucking, breaking in a new bike.

New bikes can also tend to be a little sluggish especially if you happen to have gotten a bike than ran to the tight end of the tolerances.

I'd wait till you get past the 500 mile break in point then see how it really runs or take it in for warranty repair. Doing something yourself, now, might void that warranty.

I think you made the right choice getting a Blast first. Its very crash friendly (your first bike tends to get dropped and the Blast takes it well), handles well, with enough power to get around without getting into trouble. You'll then be better prepared to really enjoy an XB and what it has to offer.

And welcome!
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Goodfoot
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool thanks for everything guys! this forum rocks!
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Dahc
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can somebody with a parts manual look up the part # for the oil switch (2001)? My light no longer comes on (unless I ground the wire). Thanks!.
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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You should be able to pick that part up at any HD dealer, but you will have to identify it as a 2001 Sportster part!

Just about any independent bike shop should have it also.

I just went to Edv's shop in Howard City, MI. today and was looking at all the cool bikes he has there, lots of BSAs, flat track bikes and even his S1 and S2. I needed a camshaft seal under the ignition module for the Sportster, and he pulled one off the shelf. These bikes are not rocket science, well...maybe 50 year old rocket science.
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Dahc
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Excellent, sounds like 26554-77B will do it then. Thanks for the help.
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got the red bike to ok - after riding it home - now it won't start - not even a click - how does one dis-able the tilt sensor switch - I strongly suspect it since the bike won't even turn and it is the only sensor left not disabled.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Angle Bank sensor switch disable?
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Swampy
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I doubt the BAS is the problem. The BAS only keeps the ignition from firing.

I would start easy, jump the solenoid, then diagnose frome there
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahhh - I've done that on cars with a screw driver - on the Blast - what am I going to do? - if it turns over from that, then I'm back to electrical? - if it doesn't - then should'nt I rule out the BAS by bypassing it somehow - how would I do that - all the other sensors - Clutch, and Kick-stand are already disabled - flipped diode and twisted wires. Thank goodness the Black bikes is doing well - but I'd like to get the other back to running as well - sigh - its always something in life - but as long as I'm riding I'm ok - still the miles on the Black bike are going to double up fast - at least a 100 miles during the week and then riding on the weekends - be like old times - having to wear the tires edges hard to keep the wear even across the tires.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just noticed - the handlebar is bent - sigh - it just keeps adding up - fuel valve also busted, seat torn, body panels shot, light shot, and still haven't figured out why she won't start - I rode her off the Zoo parking lot - restarted while hot - started right up - now no sounds or no clicking, nothing - ahh well diagnostics time per manual - any tips will of course be greatly appreciated. Just replaced the pegs with some Cruiser toe pegs - short but you can still stand on them - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Concur with Swampy.
2000 model year doesnt have a Bank angle sensor-I dont know which of your bikes is 2000 or 2001.
BAS: Basically 2 of the wires need to be joined together, unfortunately I dont remember which 2. So you'll have to figure it out(or email James to see if he remembers).
We pulled the switch apart and soldered it, but you could just connect the 2 wires.
There is a small circuit board in the switch. If its good, then it just can be filled with silicone to keep the 'ball' from moving (it moves if the bike is leaned over too far), but its just as easy to bypass it by connecting the 2 wires.

Hope that helps a little.

(Message edited by gearheaderiko on November 05, 2007)
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have both - they both have it - perhaps my 2000 is a late edition?
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Probably a mid year addition. 2000 parts book doesnt show one and the 2000 Blast I had and an early wiring harness I had, didnt have them.

Since both bikes have one, you can swap them for an easy diagnosis!

If you unbolt the switch you can flip it over and see which wire goes dead. It wont come back on until you switch the ignition off and on again.
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Xgecko
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can attest to the fact that a 2000 doesn't have a BAS... as for trouble shooting when you turn the Key do you have any power/lights?

(Message edited by xgecko on November 05, 2007)
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes - I do - and she started right up after the crash - switched out some body work and repositioned the handlebars - and tried to start her up and got nothing but dash and lights - not a peep or sound - sigh - any suggestions would be useful - will check the battery and what else? Will be doing this Tues. - my first day free - monday work and class fills my day - sigh.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Jerzydevil
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It kinda sounds like a loose wire in the throttle assembly, or a loose ground.
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Swampy
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would check bar ground and loose wire in the switch housing.
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Merci - My wife says use this motor for the XBBlast - so I'll get it working drain it/tank and carb - and begin the teardown, and build up;0)
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Swampy
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That sounds like a splendid idea!
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah - but I have to get her running first - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

An answer to jumping the motor - useful -
There should be large positive and negative posts on the starter that lead to the battery and ground. Another smaller wire will go to the solenoid.

You can jump the solenoid wire to the positive post on the starter and that should activate the starter. Make sure its in neutral.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Battery low - put in alternative battery - charged - showed 13.2 - after checking wires and switch - complete disassembly - and grounds for any signs of breaks and looseness - I gave it a try - a drop of 0.2 goes across the battery for each attempt - I think there must be a short in the switch - yet I did a thorough inspection - anything else I should check for? Same thing still happening - turn key and nothing - checked circuits, and connections - seem good - but the wires to the harness seem stouter than the handlebar switch's - that clips into them - so I suspect the switch from repeated shocks - lol - any other ideas to try would be cool.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ

(Message edited by ezblast on November 10, 2007)
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like a bad switch, plug or starter relay. The relay is supposed to take the brunt of the abuse instead of the switch. Have you checked the relay? Can you swap switches or relays with the other bike? (I know-I'm repeating myself). Have you traced the power?
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spark plug is fine - switch plug - switch could be shot from a lot of impacts, starter relay? - is that the diodes? - do you have pic for what I should check - the relay? I don't want to switch switches and maybe screw up the other switch - could I swap the relay - where is it?
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The relay! - Now both bikes work - each with the others relay - go figure - so tomorrow I'll warm up the red and then drain her fluids and start the slow dis-assembly and re-assembly onto the XB Frame - blue fender purchased - airbox-cover to go and body parts are done for a bit - just gathering up a front end and wheels as far as other parts are concerned - making the project still long term - due to being broke during the holidays - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Relay was not it - the switch was the culprit from the beginning - now she fires up at will -
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quick question - how many have experienced motor failure due to oil pump drive gear shredding?

EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wouldnt say the engine failed. It still ran and might have been okay if the gear and pump were replaced. But since I didnt need the engine and there were pieces everywhere, I 'stockpiled' the engine.

The gear was completely shredded and the pump was not turning.
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Swampy
Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had one on the Big Kids Blast. At about 8,000 miles. The drive gear was shreaded and teeth jammed the oil pump to the point that the oil pump shaft was twisted. After cleaning, and installation of the new and improved gear and a new oil pump it ran fine for 12,000 more miles before developing a wrist pin knock.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

'Mine' was also at 8000 miles. 2000 Blast
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