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Wsplrll
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone know the part number of the Pro-Series exhaust for the Blast?

Thanks
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Blaster_s
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/20164/18927.html

Buell® Pro-Series Blast® Performance Exhaust System Part # 80428-02Y
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Wsplrll
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I see the differnce in the midrange on the dyno that is posted.

Do you think there is any differnce in the 0-60 mph times with the pro series exhaust??

I am ordering one today - even if it for the cleaner look and the weight differnce.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, 0 - 60mph will improve.
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Jprovo
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Agreed, any exhaust for te Blast will make a noticable improvement in 0-60 times.

James
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Mataleao
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recently recieved my Pro Exhaust and found that I am missing the retaining ring part number (according to the manual) 65235-83A. I contacted my local Harley shop and found out he could not pull the part up on his computer. He then looked it up on a Buell parts book and found that the part number is actually 65325-83A. Which is right? Thanks in advance.

**update
Confirmed with HD Appleton that 65235-83A is a typo in the Pro Exhaust manual and should read 65325-83A. I'm sorry if this had been discussed before.

(Message edited by Mataleao on August 24, 2005)
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Welcome Mataleao and no I dont think its been discussed before-thank you!
Thank god its right in the parts manual.
I believe you're supposed to use the original clip and flange from the stock exhaust, although its much easier to order an extra set.
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Mataleao
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FYI: the manual says to remove and discard the retaining ring. The parts guy at harley said the same thing you did (the retaining ring is reusable). I've no experience in motorcycle repair so I'll definately take his and your word for it. But seeing that the part only cost 95 cents, I went ahead and bought a new one.

Thanks for the welcome: )
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Jugallo94
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wont hurt to have a spare laying around. Man those things fly far when they spring loose.
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Mataleao
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just found out that the K&N BU 5000 might have been shipped to another person and I have to wait until friday to find out and let them know to send me another one. Great customer service from Speedway Sales and Service.

After a I rejet the carb and install the exhaust. Is it ok for me to use the stock filter for the time being?
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good point Nick. ALWAYS wear safety glasses when working with those retaining rings.

Yeah, the spare ring is cheap, but the flange is not. Its just easier not to have to change them back and forth.
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Mataleao
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I finally got the exhaust installed--after some sanding with the dremel and some soap to get both parts to fit correctly. Mounting the sucker was another headache. Perhaps I should've found a way to get the bike to sit up straight (ie jacks) but none the less, used a rubber mallet to gently tap the part in place. Took me a total of about 3 hours due to inexperience mainly. But in the end, as soon as I started the bike up, I knew it was well worth the blood,sweat and tears.
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Jprovo
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool, Glad it's on the bike!
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Wsplrll
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recently recievedmy Pro Exhaust and found that I am missing the retaining ring part number (according to the manual) 65235-83A. I contacted my local Harley shop and found out he could not pull the part up on his computer. He then looked it up on a Buell parts book and found that the part number is actually 65325-83A. Which is right? Thanks in advance.

**update
Confirmed with HD Appleton that 65235-83A is a typo in the Pro Exhaust manual and should read 65325-83A. I'm sorry if this had been discussed before.

---------------------------
I just opened my new pro series exhaust and sure enough same thing no new retaining ring. The instructions do tell you to discard the old ....so it is a good thing that I read this post.
It is always something.........

Badweatherbikers proving invaluable again!
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Wsplrll
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I posted this to Ralph's site and want to confirm for this weekend's project...

2004 Blast

I just got the new Pro-Series exhaust to install this weekend.
I have the KN drop in filter and I am going to stay with the stock
airbox per Ralph.

I picked up a #45 slow jet - I think the stock is #42?
Is not the stock jet a #170???? Question is in PA will I need to rejet?
I can stay with the stock if it is in fact a #170 .....right ????


Thanks !
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the Pro series 170 is fine, though 45 for the primary is needed - there are airbox mods you can do with that K&N to make it breath almost as well as a stack.
See the TKV Procedures section.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Jprovo
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the Pro series 170 is fine

Actually, the 170 won't give you good performance, switch to a 175.

James
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Jprovo
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On that note: Jetting is not an exact science, it is a compromise for the areas we live in. Yes, you can dial in jetting with a dyno, but that jetting was optimized for one location, the dyno, with one set of atmospheric conditions. As soon as you move higher or lower in altitude, or have a really cloudy day or barometric pressure is rising, you jetting is off!
Like I said, jetting is a compromise. Typically, 175 main, 45 pilot works well with aftermarket exhausts for the Blast. 175/45 jetting is a compromise that will probably not be perfect for Fuel mileage or absolute performance, and definitely not both.
IMHO, you should only stick with the stock jetting while switching to an aftermarket exhaust if you want a louder bike, but don’t want a performance gain. You will probably see minor performance improvement, compared to stock, and better gas mileage compared to someone who goes to bigger jets. You might be better off with a 180 main, or a 44 pilot or a tweak in you ignition module or… The truth is we don’t know what is best for your bike. We can get close, and offer guidance based on our experiences, but it’s still a compromise. EZ, Erik and I are in California, the tuning requirements are going to be different that someone in the Ozarks, or Denver, or who knows where. Please, experiment with you bikes, you may find that a 165 jet is better for your area, and can share that information to us and the Blasters in your area….
Ok, I’m done.
James
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 170 keeps you in the 14 area while the 175 keeps you in the low 13s, however, this single responds well to more fuel giving more power usually as a result - funny thing on most other bikes leaner usually gives more power - Why on this bike it is different - don't know - anyone want to guess?
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Wsplrll
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am PA fairly close to Ralph.

I would definitely be looking for more in the power area and gas milage be darned.

So if that is the case do you think a 175 or even 180 is too much?

I am not really well versed so I will take any advice I can get.

I want performance - not sound ( while I will appreciate ) and milage at least while gas is under 5.00 a gallon!
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

180 is too much unless you run a hotter plug - not recommended - lol - things can go boom doing that - experience ;0(
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Matty
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where's Erik?
His bike was drowning in fuel when we had it on the dyno. What were the changes that were made?
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Wsplrll
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So 175 for more power 170 for better mpg?

Sounds like 175 is the way for me to go?
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Jprovo
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This Dyno??



Modifications: XB head, 10.5:1 piston, XB spec cams (SE'04 XL cams),SE ignition,Pro series air cleaner & exhaust, Jims hydrosolid lifters.

It looks lean on top and rich in the middle. Perhaps it needs a change in needle position, or a smaller pilot jet...

James
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Jprovo
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes, try a 175
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Wsplrll
Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the # 175 specific to the Keihin carb or is it like a bolt that is universal? I got a 175 at the dealer but the guy told me that he thought the Blast had a Mikuni!
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Jprovo
Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The guy at the dealership is wrong, the Blast uses the same jets as Sportsters and Big Twins. The carb is a Kehin

James
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Wsplrll
Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Installing the ps exhaust. Of course the angle of the ends of the header pipe don't match the exhaust pipe. I guess I can try to sand it like Mataleo said.

If I sand the inside finish off will rust be a probelm?

I don't know if just sanding will get it to go on or not.
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Wsplrll
Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whacked the front brace on with much hassel.

Back bracket doesn't fit - too narrow.

Just not fun.

I guess I will have to take a dremel to grind down the back bracket? Any thoughts?
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