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Spade115
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am having problems starting and running my blast. : ( Its my daily rider and i really like it : (

I was riding the bike and it died on me.(A few weeks ago, been working on it slowly) I managed to start it (had just put new gas super) and as I took off it died again got off the road and at a gas station was able to start it and give it gas. it would die.

I bought a new boot and put it on. I am talking to a buddy about buying a 46/175 to swap out the jets and running the pipe short (where it broke last)

Now I cant get it to start. I flipped the diode and cut the wires and spliced them together. Cannot get the bike to fire up at the moment. will be draining the tank and checking the carb (Will be first time my uncle will help me, long time mechanic) I will probably leave the new boot in the bike and put the old boot in a case in the seat in case it breaks on the road.

Do you all have any ideas on what else to do?
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check for loose and dirty grounds.
EZ
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Spade115
Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2011 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know the front ground is nice and tight since the last time I dont know where to find the rear ground.

I will tear apart the bike again and clean the front mount and re attach it
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2011 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rear is battery to frame - lol
EZ
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Spade115
Posted on Monday, September 12, 2011 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ha that makes sense. lol

Have not had time to tear into it recently thanks for the help.

J.Rodriguez
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Spade115
Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I looked at my blast terminal, i found a wire that goes from the bat to a little black box and then theres another wire that goes somewhere and the pos n neg wires

Is that the right one?
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

where does the neg wire ground to - check all for tightness.
EZ
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Spade115
Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will do : D Thanks again (And sorry for bother you alot here and through email) : (
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Spade115
Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok I checked the cable and its there on real tight
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Make sure your vent line is is not kinked or clogged.
Battery good?
EZ
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Spade115
Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

when i took it it shows up good holds the 12. Wheres the vent line located? I read earlier that the vent line would cause problems but not starting at all?
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it should hold 13.2 - with a 12.8 minimum, below that recharge and if it can't hold the minimum with no cranks, then get new. 12 will turn over but gremlins start festering - lol - checked your fuses, plug wire - both sides, plug, coil - those should be checked next.
EZ
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Spade115
Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 01:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im going to tear apart the bike tomorrow to see if i can find stuff i checked my fuses and they all look good.

Is it possible to just completely rewire the bike to run the essentials?
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Spade115
Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Forgot to add...I really hate electrical
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2011 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its just tests with in-expensive ohm meter -
EZ
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Spade115
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I charged the battery tested it and its showing 12.5 and put it into the blast and it wont crank over i figure it might be the spark plug cables or possibly the starter : (
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Spade115
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok so now I have gone over everything and when I hit the starter it shorts and everything dies for a secound still have not taken apart my controls but plan to do that today during lunch. would like to get back to riding since winters already starting early here in S.Texas (60's in the morning 90's in the afternoons)
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ditch the battery!
EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2011 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Concur (for the most part)! If you suspect you might have a bad battery, try jumping it from a good battery. Your car battery would work, just not with the car running. A known good motorcycle battery is a better choice ( just from an apples to apples perspective).
You can also try jumping the starter ( or temporarily bypassing everything and connect at the starter).
Rewiring is a bad idea unless you are absolutely sure the wiring is bad (burnt, butchered, torn out, rat eaten, etc.).
Its much easier to hook-up the starter and test it than rewire.

PS You do realize that 60's- 90's is summer in most parts of the country or were you just kidding?!
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2011 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS cranking over has nothing to do with spark plug cables.
Disconnect the headlight. The plug is about 6 inches away from where it enters the headlight bucket. That will give you a little extra "power" to start, if dealing with a weak battery.
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Spade115
Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks : D

Im serious this part of Tx weve seen up to 115 and in the lowest its usually in the 60's lol

I think the coldest we've ever gotten (with the right temp) is
30's with rain, a hell of a wind chill, at night with a storm comeing. It dosnt get too cold here in deep south Tx.

Google La Joya Tx, im at the tip

I will try unplugging the headlight, I just really didnt want it to be the battery : ((

Thanks again you all.
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Spade115
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok sure its the battery I connected it to the charger and hit the cold start on the charger and it wanted to start but didnt so the batterys low. Going to need to buy it this week with mileage check or payday :/ Battery still holds amp so plan to make a small box and use it as auxilery lights to work on the bike when needed : D

Thanks again to everyone for the help : D
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Buellistic
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

START Class 101:

Side stand switch and the other RIDER SAFETY SWITCHES cause start problems ...

Will not start, make sure battery terminals are tight(check every 5K as motorcycles vibrate) ...

Still no start, pull lite fuses ...

Still no start, charge battery ...

Still no start, battery no longer has the start volts(or amps) or it is just too old or wore out because of poor battery preventive maintenance ...

"YES" it could be some other simple thing(things) wrong as that is what TROUBLE SHOOTING is all about ...

Iam Noone"
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Merci!
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Spade115
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2011 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok I had the bike broken down started fixing bits of wiring here and there and seeing what was wronge bought a new battery and put the acid myself into it capped it off and lightly tapped the plastic cover in with a ball peen. bike fired right up no shorts or nothing like befor. Bypassed the clutch safety (still use the clutch to start) and bypassed the kickstand safety also : D

Rode 30 miles on the test ride and rode to work today

Thanks You all : D
j.R.

(Message edited by Spade115 on October 24, 2011)
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Swampy
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2011 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uh...Does anybody want to tell him about the battery?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2011 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice catch Swampy. Its all sounds good, but......

Spade, that battery might be leaking acid all over your bike and probably wont last long laid over on its side.

Unless we're missing something???
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Spade115
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lol, no its sealed (the plastic strip covers the holes) and I made sure they were sealed properly (had my uncle check) bike starts and runs fine lol.
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That seal won't hold - ditch battery and get a sealed one - your ass.
EZ
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