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Xb12mel
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A pictures worth a 1000 words...





This seems to be the norm in Kansas... To explain further, this picture was taken at 65 MPH on US54 today in rush hour traffic.

Whatta ya thinkin?
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

all i see is some guy riding his bike in a t-shirt and jeans. did i miss something?
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's the same in a lot of places. Ever been to california?
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Dnchevyman
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hes thinking, "chics dig me"... well i got news for him, they wont dig him once he makes out with concrete...
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK..... so....that's his problem.
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Xb12mel
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually... it's His helmet...or lack there of. Guys cruzin 65 tee shirt and sun glasses...
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Beachbuell
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Compared to what I see here in South Florida everyday, that guy is geared up. Tank top, shorts and sneakers or SANDALS............ Riding a (insert import bike name here) __________ is the average norm down here.

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No_rice
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

im not used to seeing people with helmets. usually if they do have one on it IS a sport bike rider.
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so the guy is cruising without a helmet.
I ride my motorcycle with no seat belt, and I'm sure some folks in Plymouth valiants are getting all worked up about that, too.
It's his life...
just as any of us, riding motorcycles as opposed to driving SUVs, are increasing our risk factor.
Live and let die
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"sun glasses..."

Probably spent $300.00 bones on a pair of Oakley's too.

I'd have to honestly say that guys riding their Harley's without gear out number the sport bike guys doing the same at least 5-1 in the Milwaukee area.

I saw a guy last week wearing shorts, a tank, green flip flops, no helmet and no eye wear(no wind screen) on his brand new 08 Fat Bob. If you have the money for a bike, why not spend a little more and buy gear that's at least going to save your eyeballs?
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Live and let die"

You want to be the driver of a car/truck who had an accident with a biker who died because he was too dumb to wear the right gear? You want to live with that? There's no number of "well, you shouldn't feel bad, he wasn't wearing a helmet" comments that's going to make you feel better.

When dying comes at a cost (not just monetary costs) to other people, its not "live and let die".
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Damnut
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A pictures worth a 1000 words...



Here's a picture for ya!!!






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Paint_shaker
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At least he didn't F up the tat!!!
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Mrs_glitch
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)




We have a name for that around here, we call 'em "Squid Capes"
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I saw two females on a crotch rocket over the weekend wearing shorts and halter tops....nice eye candy but not real smart
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Brumbear
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If thats rush hour traffic I am moving there
I can only say gear works I KNOW IT FOR A FACT
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"You want to be the driver of a car/truck who had an accident with a biker who died because he was too dumb to wear the right gear? You want to live with that? There's no number of "well, you shouldn't feel bad, he wasn't wearing a helmet" comments that's going to make you feel better. "

Not my problem if it's his fault- the other guy wants to ride without a helmet, screws up and dies as a result, it doesn't increase my culpability just because it was my car he hit.
makes no difference to me, at all.
I respect that moron's right to endanger himself however he sees fit.
You seem to be very worked up over other people's freedoms, buellinachopshop.
I don't smoke, but it doesn't mean i'm upset about other people increasing their risk factor for cancer, either. it's their right.
Live and let die.
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Jimduncan69
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what i want to know is, who took the pic? was it the person driving the car behind him? on a cell phone maybe? that to some people would be just as dangerous to them........

i don't think i would ride on the interstate without a helmet. but i wouldn't preach to someone who doesn't wear one. in ohio we don't have a helmet law. how can you give someone slack who isn't even breaking the law.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EVERY single time I see someone riding with minimal or worse NO gear my stomach does
a double back flip with a twist. Seriously, It makes me sick because I cannot
help but think of the consequences these people will have to live with for the rest of
their lives....IF they survive.

I was wearing gear when I got hit, or I would not be alive today and neither would my
wife. I live with pain every single day as it is, and got to miss out on teaching my
daughters to ride bicycles because I could not run along side them, just to mention one
experience I will never get back.

You do not control all the factors that can lead to an accident when you ride.

I joke that it is "a little chlorine in the gene pool", but it's really making light
of a sad situation. The cost of the gear and supposed discomfort that come with wearing
gear are MINOR compared to the discomfort and cost that are associated with a skin graft.

It has never been more true that "I'd rather sweat than bleed"

ATGATT.
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Tom_b
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

not the "norm" in kansas. i know that section of road, ride it a lot. That pic is not a good representation of rush hour traffic. it is usually heavier. Most of the people i know wear helmets (about 3/4 of them). While questioning common sense i also would have to question the photographers lack of it.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't give a f***.
I just worry about me.
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Like I say- anybody in a car has equal cause to 'tsk tsk' any of us well-helmeted folk for simply riding a motorcycle, as opposed to being strapped safely into a nice steel capsule with airbags. I wear my fullface when I ride, and if some fellow human being prefers to ride helmetless, and kills himself against my car, I have absolutely no problem with that.
He died the way he preferred, and I am in no position to judge that man.
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Cochise
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This seems to be the norm in Kansas... To explain further, this picture was taken at 65 MPH on US54 today in rush hour traffic.

Whatta ya thinkin?


What am I thinkin'? You shouldn't be taking pictures at 65 miles an hour on the freeway when you should be driving.}
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've ruined a few gloves and one helmet at slow speed........can't imagine what I'd feel at even a meager 40mph on fresh screed concrete with no gear.I wear full gear at gas stops unless I'm going to take a break. I even go in to get the mail with full gear(when on the bike). People really think I'm weird for that, but I ain't undressing for just a one minute stop..........or two, if I have to go to the counter to get a parcel.........
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Kyrocket
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We had a blessing of the bikes here this past Sunday and I was the ONLY one with a full face helmet out of about 200 bikes. Not too many wearing the half helmets. Ky repealed the helmet law a few years back, I always wear one but I want the choice and not be MADE to.

Now eyewear is a different story, if you're running 25mph or more you just plain can't see which is dangerous for everyone involved.
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Zane
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I took my MSF course a couple of weeks ago and out of the maybe 45 or 50 people in the class, there was only me and one other person with a full face helmet.

Here in Tampa/St. Pete/Clearwater no helmet is the norm not the exception.

My son is doing the MSF course this week and I didn't give him a choice, full face helmet or he walks.
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Cudajohn
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FL has got to have the highest moto death rate. I have visited a few times and remember seeing a cruiser pull out in front of me with the dude wear tank top/shorts/flip flops. Girl had on a bikini and flip flops.
I know the effects of wearing regular denim and going down first hand. Even your off the rack Levi's won't cut it at 40 mph.
I pitty the "cool" guy.
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Feel free to tell me what you do,
just don't tell me what to do,
feel free to talk with me,
just don't preach at me,
feel free to lead by example,
just don't drag me my the ankle,
feel free to live your life,
and please allow me to live mine.

I also ride bicycles, would anyone care to compare a bicycle helmet to a motorcycle helmet? How about comparing road rash from a bicycle crash at 30mph versus a motorcycle crash at 60mph? A guy at work here was playing baseball recently and slid in to a base and got a bad case of road rash on his leg, instead of telling him ATGATT I instead told him about Tegaderm.

I wore running shoes while on the S2 the other day, oh the humanity of it all. And today while driving the car in to work I almost got creamed by an impatient pickup truck driver merging onto the freeway, sometimes it don't matter what you ride or drive if the opponent outweighs you, but a quick lane shift got me out of the way and in front of him where I stayed for the next 8 miles much to his chagrin.
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Benm2
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

EVERY single time I see someone riding with minimal or worse NO gear my stomach does
a double back flip with a twist.




Mine too.


quote:

Like I say- anybody in a car has equal cause to 'tsk tsk' any of us well-helmeted folk for simply riding a motorcycle, as opposed to being strapped safely into a nice steel capsule with airbags. I wear my fullface when I ride, and if some fellow human being prefers to ride helmetless, and kills himself against my car, I have absolutely no problem with that.
He died the way he preferred, and I am in no position to judge that man.




Tough to "agree" with both sides, I guess?

I don't envy any of them the pain they'll feel even from a simple 35-mph pavement slip-n-slide, but it is THEIR personal risk.

At one point or another I've crashed everything I've owned. Safety gear is my friend, YMMV.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Find something you love and let it kill you.

Kinky Friedman
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