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Dmhines
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reliable sources in the USA have said that massive Hero Motor Corporation are to buy out all of the EBR shares from Eric Buell and now own the Erik Buell Racing operation in total.

Sources also said that Erik Buell has also been given full time employment and the famous American motorcycle brand will remain in place.

This is great news for EBR customers and fans along with their agencies and dealers worldwide.

This move could also see the EBR WSBK team back on the race track again.



http://www.motorcycle.in.th/article.php/Eric-Buell -Racing-Bought-by-Hero-Motor
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Court
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Name 2 of the "reliable" sourceS.

The one you posted can't spell "Erik". That makes me leery.

I'm eager to hear about the thrilled dealers and customers.

Yesterday was certainly interesting.
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Ljm
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll bite. Customer x 3. I will be happy when it is substantiated and we can see that there is a future in parts and service. I have mixed feelings if it is Hero, but also admit that we have no way to know if any of the rumors and innuendo are even remotely true.

So, that is a tentative happy customer, provided things move forward.
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D_adams
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll go out on a limb here and say it is NOT hero.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope its not Hero!!! I thought were excluded from purchasing it?
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Double post

(Message edited by figorvonbuellingham on July 24, 2015)
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Germblast
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really want to get an 1190SX, but if Hero will now owns the company....I won't get one. I have no idea what direction Hero will take EBR.

The risk is not worth it especially if I will need replacement parts in the future for the 1190 as just about every bike does. Could end up with poor quality stuff in the future.
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Classax
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IF its HERO I will NOT be a happy customer.
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Snacktoast
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A hypothetical, since we don't know the validity of the source...

Consider, just for a moment all of the people that worked for EBR. Not Buell, pre-HD or during HD's ownership. Just when it was purely EBR from October 2010(?) to April 2015.
Imagine that the company that withheld payment for your company's engineering services, and essentially trashed the EBR Motorcycles name by shutting dealers and customers out cold turkey (marketing/manpower/funding problems aside).....Would you, for a SECOND, consider working for that corporation if they were now the sole owner and shot caller?

ugh...
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Court
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not happening.

Tough to convince me Erik Buell has aligned himself with patently dishonest and dishonorable partners.

They'd not be able to give product away.

I've yet to be convince that owners and dealers are thrilled.

I'm calling bullshit on the story.
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Germblast
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

not a f'in chance....walmart is always hiring
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Xb9er
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not sure how Hero could buy EBR. I think Norton will have the top bid...
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Old_dog
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hero had cash-flow problems such that they couldn't pay 'EBR the vendor.' But they have the scratch to buy the whole carcass? Doesn't sound right. This story smells.
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Snacktoast
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A source very close to the situation, someone I would trust a lot, has informed that this story is NOT true.

I think we can all sleep a little easier tonight... well, at least I can.
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Coolice
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, July 25, 2015 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ringing up Male Bovine Defecation.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, July 25, 2015 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well?
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Court
Posted on Sunday, July 26, 2015 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suspect the facts regarding what has transpired will thrill some....anger some.....amaze some and, as has been typical at every commercial turn of the company, have the internet abuzz with speculation and an endless parade of woulda, coulda, shoulda speculation.
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Carbonfibrebob
Posted on Sunday, July 26, 2015 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do tell !!!
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, July 26, 2015 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

According to my "inside" info, no auction yet as of 4am today.
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Readyxb
Posted on Sunday, July 26, 2015 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^ Here is what IDS had to say about this Hero story:

"...With the journalistic bar now set so low, Asphalt & Rubber feels comfortable reporting that there is indeed a new owner for Erik Buell Racing, but it is not Hero MotoCorp, but instead the Flying Spaghetti Monster deity to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster."

Yes! Finally, the truth comes out.
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Trackdad
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, so when is the Auction/Sale supposed to happen?
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D_adams
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

End of this week possibly.
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Court
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>no auction yet as of 4am today.

That's no more accurate than the other story. Be careful what you read and believe.
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Noone1569
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Paperwork received my EBR owners today stating that the auction is Aug 5th (had a typo saying the 4th earlier)

(Message edited by noone1569 on July 27, 2015)
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Snacktoast
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Noone,

Per the latest information and paperwork, the auction is scheduled for August 5th at 10am.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court- I think you got auto-corrected in the first of your two posts above (?).

The business with the debt sounds very interesting.

Edit- dammit! Another drive-by Phantom post!

(Message edited by Hughlysses on July 27, 2015)
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Finedaddy1
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It wouldn't surprise me if it were an auto manufacture. Audi = Ducati, Mercedes = MV Agusta.. Just speculation, I don't know shit from apple butter about what's going on.
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Davegess
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, the letter from the attorney arrive today. Auction on the 5th with the court scheduled to approve, or not, on the 6th.
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Airbozo
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...mmmmm apple butter......
...aaarrrgggghhhhh.........
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Court
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your eyes can deceive you; don't trust them ...
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Ponti1
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nothing to add of value, but subscribing to the thread to watch things unfold.
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Cmmagnussen
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can we change the thread title? I have a micro stroke every time I see it
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good idea!
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Ponti1
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LMAO!! Muuuch better
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Dmhines
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rather have Hero than Obama! LOL
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Snacktoast
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's like going from the frying pan into the fire!
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 06:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting news from multiple Indian sources this morning. They're claiming Hero has reached a settlement with the receiver to buy certain EBR assets (this source states it's EBR's consulting business), which I'm assuming would include all the stuff EBR was working on for Hero:

http://www.livemint.com/Companies/FDJSsEeianzBuH4z vLCrMM/Hero-to-acquire-EBRs-consulting-business.ht ml
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a press release from Hero which appears to substantiate the above news articles:

http://www.moneycontrol.com/stocks/reports/hero-mo tocorp-clarificationrespect-topress-release-concer ningexecutiona-settlement-agreement-by-hmcl-na-inc hmcl-americas-inc-1282281.html
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Dmhines
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So Free and Clear of all encumbrances ... what does that mean? Any claims against EBR will be void and dismissed?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting question. Maybe it translates as "You sell us all the design information on the HX250R, Hastur, diesel/hybrid scooter, etc. for $2.8M, and we give up our 49% interest in EBR."

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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think so Hugh. So my guess is that Hero will get off for 1/3 of what they owed, but they also renounce any ownership of any other part of EBR in return, which adds value to the assets going up for sale. The buyer is free from the fear of Hero litigating, and Hero is free from the fear of the buyer litigating.

It would be interesting to go back to the original investment, see how much it was, see what they have to write down, and see what they owed EBR for already done consulting work.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting information in this article:

http://www.autocarpro.in/news-national/hero-motoco rp-acquire-ebr-usd28-million-8949

quote:

It is known that EBR was involved in 17 projects that were given by the Indian company. While it managed to deliver 12 of them (mainly facelifts of existing models), developments on the front of five crucial projects (all showcased at the 2014 Delhi Auto Expo) remained incomplete at the time when EBR had declared its insolvency. After completion of the deal, these projects will come under the proprietorship of Hero MotoCorp.


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Ponti1
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would like to think Hughlysses is interpreting correctly. To clear the 49% stake while getting back ~10% of what had been owed from Hero does not sound like too bad an option, especially since it also gets them out of the picture going forward. Further, it may significantly reduce the investment required for the internal motorcycle design/production end of the business to be bought in whole.
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Davegess
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think Hughlysses may have it right. We will know for sure on 8/6
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Ljm
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hopefully this will accomplish the divorce.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court has some interesting comments in the similar thread on the Quickboard.
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Alchemy
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As I read it, I don't see how this clears the 49%, not that that is important. This is related the the consulting agreement it seems which would have been a creditor eventually cleared by the receiver. This clears those damage claims off the list of all claims before the receiver - if approved.

After all the claims are cleared, then any remaining assets (unlikely probably) would be apportioned out according to the percentages of ownership.

But each claim that gets cleared makes it easier for someone to buy whatever remains. Of course IANAL so who knows.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^ I'm just thinking that the receiver must have had a substantial incentive to let Hero have their stuff for $2.8M rather than the alleged $20M they owed. The letter says:

quote:

HMCL and the Receiver have also agree to resolve all disputes and fully give mutual releases in terms of the Settlement Agreement for all subject matters which is in any way related to EBR.


I took that to mean Hero relinquished their 49% ownership of EBR as part of the deal, but I guess we'll have to wait and see next week.

I found a link to a more complete document regarding the settlement:

http://www.moneycontrol.com/mccode/news/article/article_pdf.php?autono=2189221&num=0


(Message edited by Hughlysses on July 28, 2015)
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Tough to convince me Erik Buell has aligned himself with patently dishonest and dishonorable partners. "

This post interests me more than any others by Court on this subject.
When I read this, and knowing how Court is in the know, it makes me think that the rumor/allegations that Hero owed $20M to EBR is false.
Maybe Im reading it wrong. But if they, as many have reposted, withheld 20 milllion dollars from EBR, that would, in my opinion, make them 'dishonest and dishonorable partners,' yes?

We've all see how rumors spread, such as the "Harley HAS to make parts for 7 years by law..." stuff (which Court usually asks the person to present this information).
What if this is the new version of that?

I got no stake in it, didnt buy an EBR and could not care less about what Hero is involved, or not involved, in.
What I do care about is the truth.

Hopefully soon we'll all know the story to all of this and they'll be back to making bikes (please let a Uly type come in about 6 months....)
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Nobuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Having 20 million in unpaid invoices for engineering services to one company seems crazy to me. I cannot imagine any company allowing the receivables to extend that high without stopping services. There has to be more to that story.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a reliable US media source confirmation of this transaction:

http://www.jsonline.com/business/buell-auction-res cheduled-for-aug-5-b99545931z1-318861161.html
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The sun is peeking over the horizon and it's bright.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A&R version of the story: http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/hero-motocorp -acquires-unfinished-rd-erik-buell-racing/?utm_cam paign=news&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

Somehow they read the Hero press release and seem to come away thinking EBR owed Hero money.
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Steveford
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
A baby's head is like an elephant.
Would you care to elaborate?

(Message edited by SteveFord on July 28, 2015)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 06:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Per this article, now that they've apparently made a deal for the Hero projects EBR was working on, Hero says they have no interest in purchasing the other remaining assets of EBR:

http://www.livemint.com/Companies/51ZQM3D5s6k4VK4U Zu0R4O/Hero-MotoCorp-will-not-bid-to-buy-out-bankr upt-partner-EBR.html
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Finedaddy1
Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All sounds very positive to me.

Any info. as to who will own EBR yet?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^ I think Court must have a really good idea, but he's not saying.
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Phelan
Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Except the Livemint article claims "the 1190cc bikes were $40,000 each". I guess they didn't get the memo that there were 3 different 1190cc models, with the latter 2 being much cheaper and much higher in numbers.
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Phelan
Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You heard it from me first- my guess is HD buys the company. Then sells it back to Erik for $1 a year later. Lol
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S21125r
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why not BRP? If I recall correctly, they were hours away from inking a deal with HD during the first closure before HD backed out. And if Victory is already headed in this direction on their own then this would be a good opportunity for BRP to play catchup.
New company name will be EBRP.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe Magpul will sneak in and grab it.
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Crusty
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I think Mahindra Tractors is trying to expand their product line...
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think Mahindra Tractors is trying to expand their product line...

Oh, they make diesel pickups too, which they were supposed to bring to the US a few years ago. That turned into a fiasco of Hero/EBR proportions.
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Readyxb
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Elon Musk
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Ocbueller
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perhaps a collaboration of Buell and Motus.
A Motus powered Buell creation. A Muell or a Butus.
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Ducley
Posted on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 03:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mule the StreetTracker guy might not like the name that sounds like his.

Hmmmm...Methinks I hear lawsuits in the wind...

Butus sounds too much like butt ugly...

Butt Ugly Ulys????
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Oddball
Posted on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Muelltus
Motuell
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2015 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mobuell could have a Pegasus logo.....oh
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