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Blastin
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think we will be finding some intereting things out by the end of next week. Just a hunch on my part.;)
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Jim_m
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

an added thought to my last post...

XB9M with M2 front suspension

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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

-=snort=-
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Bykergeek
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jim,
Why lose the ZTL brake? It ROCKS! I feel like I lost nothing coming from dual 320mm / Nissin 4 pot caliper brakes on my last bike - and I considered it top notch.
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Bykergeek
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ahh, the fog clears. I just saw Dave Gess' blog. It's a cost saving measure? I would love to see a budget XB model.
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Jim_m
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"-=snort=-"
What, at a budget XB or at my poor Photoshop-fu?
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Both...of course, I'm also someone who could care less if they release a XB12R - I for one will not be banging on their door with a "WTF!?" just because I bought a 'piddly' little 9.

I love my bike. What they do afterwards, unless it causes them to go under and leave me stranded parts and service (insert another snort at service)-wise, couldn't concern me less.

Bryan
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Blastin
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody want to take a ride up to Road America? :)
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Fssnoc2501
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If Buell want to build a budget XB, put a 600cc single in that chassis and sell to those of us that fell in love with the Blast. There is a subgroup of the nation that wants the feel of the "thumpin'" little Blast, but with a little more HP and decent suspension.

Just my opinion

Ray
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Sarodude
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I still think a SuperBlast would be cool. Not sure it'd need to be as sophisticated as the XB chassis. I'd be happy with adjustable front & rear suspensions and revised ergos. Oh yeah, and more oomph...

-Saro
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Prof_stack
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A 600cc Blast would once again be a testbed for a two-cylindered version (that seems to be coveted by those who think the XB9's are underpowered). I'm pretty sure it would be fuel-injected and not as visceral as the P3. A normal sized rear pulley would be nice as well. What do you think: 45 rwhp? $5,495?
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah baby! JQ has been predicting that model for three years now. I think a street tracker version of the Blast would do very well. Thumpers are too cool!
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 05:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If Buell thinks that Sport Tourers don't sell well, wait 'till they try to sell a big street single.
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Ray_maines
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've said before, I'll say again: There ain't no way on earth the blast engine is going to end up in any kind of new Sportster.
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Fssnoc2501
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think that y'all seriously underestimate the market for a performance(NOT RACE)thumper. Look at the number of companies that build a single now that are on the market. Second look at the popularity of the Blast (I remember reading a post on this board that that LITTLE bike won't last more than a year or two)that's been proven wrong. Look at the after market and the parts available for the Blast.

What this tells me, along with being an active participant in the Blast section of this board,there is a desire, a want, even a cry to let the bike we love to grow up. The parts are already available the grown up chassis, the engine improvements of the XB, and a market the loves the feel of a single cylinder four-stroke motorcycle.

The world is ready for a "Thunder Thumper"

Again just my opinion

Ray
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S320002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have to agree with Ray G and Blake. A breathed on Buell single in XBR and tracker type configurations would sell like crazy. Heck the AMA might even be forced to create a race class for them!

I want one!!! Hell I might even buy both configurations!

Greg
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Benm2
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

XB7RR. 750cc, water cooled, DOHC, short stroke, counterbalanced, 45-degree V-twin. Forced fan cooling with radiator under seat. Keep fins on cyliders to reduce size of radiator. Variable valve timing (VANOS style, not that step-change system Honda has) to widen powerband. Dry sump, gear driven primary but still separate oils for engine & tranny.

Let the flames begin.
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ben,
Looks like you found a copy of that older magazine that's made the rounds. Fits your description fairly well. Pics have been posted here on the site before. The Harley that never was. I think it was from the 80's.
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José_quiñones
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You mean the NOVA?
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd love to see a 600+ cc engine in a XB frame. That would give them something to compete with the SV650 the best thumper on the market, OMHO.}} That would probably be the only way to get me into a new Buell at this point.

I love the XB-line but I'm still an old school Bueller. My next "big Buell" purchase will be an S1W (white on white on white, of course).

Waiting to see what's coming down the pipe....
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In the origional Thor project 3 different engine sizes were tested in the single configuration - 500cc, 650cc, and 750cc - gee - it would probably kick ass if they released the 750cc version with the XB up-grades - a thought - got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Blastin
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As much as I would love to see a new high-performance thumper that would kick-ass, it ain't happening, at least not this year. If single cylinder motorcyles were not allowed to compete in Battle-Trax for the trip to Vegas to the finals, then I doubt they are going to release a new thumper.

Come on Mennis,
You know you want a bike without all that extra baggage. Who needs to carry around all that extra weight of a second cylinder when
It Only Takes One to Get It Done!!

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Dynarider
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That would give them something to compete with the SV650 the best thumper on the market, OMHO.}}

Psst Dennis, the SV650 is a twin, not a thumper.
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Psst Dennis, the SV650 is a twin, not a thumper.<~~Dyna

LOL...D'oh!
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Benm2
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sort of like the NOVA. IMHO, I'd like 45-degrees versus 60 (a "heritage" thing). I'd hope, though, that the final product would look more like a Benelli Tornado (with the lower panels off, if you please).

Personally, I'd like to see them "push the envelope" with a high-dollar homologation special, supplied to the public with CNC'd ports, forged pistons, magnesium cam covers, dry slipper clutch, etc. Perhaps use the Aprilia "cut the white wire & pull the bung from the airbox" trick for an easier slide through the EPA. Just a thought.
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Ray_maines
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd like to see the Blast upgraded to Real Bike status too, but if it is, it won't be labeled “Sportster.” I'm really kind of hoping for a SuperMotard type of bike and I think that would work for a couple of reasons.

1) SuperMotard bikes are cool and becoming more popular. HD could be on the leading edge of an upcoming style and sell a bunches of these things to just about everybody that walked through the front door of a dealership.

2) A SuperMotard Blast would be a perfect "transition" bike for the traditional Harley rider. Once the cruiser types begin to understand the joy of performance bike riding they would be more accepting of the rest of the Buell range. Most HD owners have enough money to buy a Buell as a second bike.
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Court
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>In the origional Thor project 3 different engine sizes were tested

That is an inaccurate statement. I was on the original test riding team along with my partner Gary Valine. If there were three, the third was VERY secret.

For the record, in reponse to something someone sent me from another BBS, I NEVER test rode an X1 other than a couple "gun runs" from East Troy to NYC and back non-stop.

Court

Court
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Cyclone1
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>I was on the original test riding team along with my partner Gary Valine.<<

Gary Valine is THE MAN!! :D

Frank
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Dynarider
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This was posted over on MotorcycleDaily.com

"New Buell Coming?
By Dirck Edge


Rumors of a new Buell have surfaced. A Buell with a liquid-cooled engine . . . perhaps, based on the Harley-Davidson V-Rod. Housed in the modern, XB9 chassis, it could be a killer combination -- the engine Buell has long needed"



That would indeed be a major suprise if it happens. I dont think anyone is expecting anything like that.
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I stand corrected thats true - only two were in physical testing - if I remember the 500 and the 650 - but I had read in that same article that three were on the drawing board, another article independently verified that - We always knew one bike was the 500 but there was always speculation about which the other was the 650 or 750 - well you guys would know - which was it? - Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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