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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want two race header shoes for the new style hanger (2002 style).
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Charlies_s1
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Two here also for the y hanger.
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D_adams
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



or this



I'm going on the assumption it will only have one band clamp and should fit around a 2.5" OD pipe (roughly). Need specific dimensions or a part to use as a template. A CAD drawing will work.

I count 15 total at this point, I think it's enough to do them. I've already called my machine shop guy and told him what I want done, just need to give him a firm quantity to commit to. I'll probably do between 20-30 on the first run. This setup would possibly work with the tuber mufflers I build anyway, so I'll try it out on mine also.
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Roaldnelson
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any guess on price?
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The top one sure looks stronger. Would be nice if it was a combination of the two. I.E. two vertical pieces that engage the mount, and extend over the clamp, perhaps with the gusset in between them.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any plan for bushings to isolate the vibration? That was the main change in the stock upgrade... it went from the original vertical planes with holes (like you have) to horizontal tubes with rubber lining.
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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It will bolt into the y hanger which is rubber mounted is that enough or does it need more?
I guess I am in for one in case I need it!!!
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think those rubber bushings are built in to the Y mount.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You do need spacers to fill the gaps between the shoe and the mount. For the stock muffler, it's a tube about an inch long. Ideally, the vertical portions of the new shoe would contact the insides of the Y, like the stock muffler does, so a single spacer could be used to fill the gap.
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Jefc73
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would be in for one if it was made like the top photo of Deans above. I already have a new original race series shoe bracket.
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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dont worry Dean will have it all handled soacers etc He is a pro at this stuff.
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Roaldnelson
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what about adding a 2nd ear to the part in the first photo - best of both worlds?
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Jayvee
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bottom one will fit the Y-mount with the existing factory spacer in between the ears. The top one would need two shorter spacers (but longer than the factory spacer cut in half, because it's one 'ear' thinner, i.e. missing the other ear.)
Either way, put me down for ONE please.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I get it! I didn't realize this works with the Y mount thingy... for some reason I thought it was an alternative to it.

Sorry for nosing in!
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Davefl
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I remember the top one was designed by Al at American Sport Bike before he bought American Sport Bike from Tat. Don't think any ever got made except maybe one for himself.
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D_adams
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The weak link will be the band clamp itself once I get these made. They're about $10-12 each, I have been using Clampco clamps for about 6 years now and only had a few failures on 1125's, most of those were from overtightening the clamp.
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K12pilot
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like we got something going here

I do like the new version better but made for the Y hanger w 2 vertical supports & yes we would need a spacer for the bolt. The issue that is obvious is that the clamp would have to fit through or around the slot.
I like the 5 star clamps that were OE strong as a shit house. If they could be made to slide in or through that would be great.

not familiar with the clampco clamps but Dean your the PRO in the room ))

yes Jay there would have to be 2 spacers for the top mnt.

the rubber bushings are in the Y mount already

I hope we are not stepping on Al's toes (

I have to call him & place an order tomorrow I will speak to him about it
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Red93stang
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll take a couple Dean. Thanks!
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Canario
Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And I take one as well. Thanks.
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Screamer
Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2015 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When the part (S1121.G) was last available (2001?) it was priced at $39.65 - are they still worth that much?
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S1owner
Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2015 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For people that need them! Very easily if not more.

(Message edited by S1owner on May 09, 2015)
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Norton952
Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2015 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Tuberraceexhaust
This is what i have on my 2001 S3, I am told its a Stainless factory race exhaust. (NO, Im not selling it) How is this part different than whats on there? I also have a 98 S1 Tuber as well I am mounting exhaust on. Maybe i need this part. feedback??
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2015 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wish there were larger pics of these floating around and easy to find.

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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2015 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll get you photos, Dean.

Would you like a ruler in the screen, for reference? : ) Let me know, I'll shoot some tomorrow for ya.
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D_adams
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2015 - 06:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Having the part in hand would be better. Someone sent me a PM already about it, I just haven't replied yet. Just saw it in my email, so I'll be doing that in a bit.
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Roaldnelson
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2015 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So it sounds like we have:

The top photo now with 2 vertical ears, 1 spacer, 1 Clampco clamp, for $40-ish?

am I close to the jest of the thread? If so, sign me up for 2
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Ebutch
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2015 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ebutch
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2015 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ebutch
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2015 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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D_adams
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2015 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know that the top design would be any better than the factory fix. I'll let everyone know once I get an estimate on quantity required for the pricing.
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