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| Aesquire |
Could anyone have possibly seen this coming... Sure. You should be able to find references to Italian strains ( poss. Chinese propaganda ) And others, those zombie minks had a nasty mutation, I think. Also complaints from at least May about how useless a vaccine would be as the bug mutates. I suspect some will see new strains as an excuse to cling to unlimited executive whim power. By summer the NY legislature might have to go back to work. Unless they extend the 14 month "we're running away from the plague and our responsibility, so Andrew can play Emperor without us" scam. Frankly, I don't like their work anyway, Andrew basically uses them as a rubber stamp, and now we have proof they are unnecessary... Uh, non -essential workers. Makes me want to organize a group who would cosplay Antifa, occupy the Capitol building, declare it an autonomous zone, then reveal it's actually a law enforcement friendly patriot organization. They'd nuke Albany. | ||
| Tpehak |
The vaccine may help you to survive covid-19 but there is a big chance it will make you more volnurable to sars-cov-2. | ||
| Zacks |
Mutations - sure. I was referencing that the DAY they started vaccinations here, the story starts getting attention that there's a new strain that of course, the vaccinations may not be effective against. So, yes, there's your excuse to keep the restrictions in place. | ||
| Ducbsa |
“The California experience was especially perplexing. Despite strict COVID-19 rules, the state has set records for new cases all week, including more than 50,000 on Thursday. Florida, with no business restrictions, reported 13,148 new cases.” https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/420937/ (Message edited by ducbsa on December 18, 2020) | ||
| Ratbuell |
Damn you and your inconvenient facts... | ||
| Zacks |
Here's the data from WI DHS: 3 weeks since T-day and active cases are down 45%. The last 2 weeks - 37%. So.....either everyone listened to the Gov and minions and stayed home. Or, it wasn't the superspreader event forecasted. Certainly not what is being reported on the 10 O'clock. YMMV | ||
| Ratbuell |
NOBODY saw a spike like was predicted. WI, NY, FL, TX...nobody. Tucker did a long segment about it last night. There were MORE flights in the air this Thanksgiving holiday, than there were 2 years ago for the same dates (I want to say something like 6,900 and change, this year). That doesn't take into account auto traffic - it took me 16 hours to make an 11 hour trip the Sunday after Thanksgiving, just due to traffic volume. Not accidents...just volume. Fauci lied. And, nobody is calling him out on it. Matter of fact, he's pushing the same line of bullshyte for Christmas. | ||
| Needs_o2 |
Herd immunity starting to trickle into the mix?  | ||
| Tpehak |
There were more flights in the air this Thanksgiving holiday because of people wanted farewell their significant others before coronavirus killed them. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/12/are -shutdowns-leading-to-youth-suicide.php Nobody? That there would be a Fall rise in cases WAS predicted last Spring. Exactly where and how much? No. That there is/was a "spike" was predicted. The magnitude? Which numbers do you trust? Seriously, I don't have any faith in what CNN or my Governor says, so which "reporting" is even close? That there's a "crisis" is real. I'm told the reefer trucks are filling with overflow bodies. Locally. Just like the Big Apple in Spring. How bad the "crisis" really is? | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/a ma_lied__how_many_died.html Just when you thought you'd hit the depths of evil... | ||
| Ducbsa |
Too bad Trump didn't announce that HCQ was useless for Covid relief. | ||
| Tpehak |
The bad news is the vaccine is here. The good news is there is not enough vaccine to kill everyone. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/12/nee ded-a-vaccine-for-leftism.php | ||
| Ducbsa |
And yet Fredo's brother is revered by the Party Censors.  (Message edited by ducbsa on December 19, 2020) | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/18/weal thy-americans-pressure-concierge-doctors-early-vac cination/ Of course Justin Bieber needs the vaccine ahead of nurses! That's sarcasm, btw. If there's anything we've learned from Covid-19 it's that Hollywood is non essential. And it's been known for Thousands of years, that the appropriate response to "do you know who I am?" in an indignant tone is to realize that person is an butt hole. ( caution! telling them that to their face will hurt their Feelings! ) Btw, on the Hollywood is non essential issue, there's a viral video of Tom Cruise screaming at crew for violating distance rules. ( they got too close to him watching footage on a monitor. ) Sure, he's a raging jerk. But he's also under tremendous pressure of millions of dollars at stake and trying to employ hundreds of people during a panic tyranny exercise... If his movie gets shut down, or actors get sick, that's a huge loss. ( how much a loss not getting another Mission Impossible film is? That's opinion. The jobs? That's real. ) | ||
| Ratbuell |
Butbutbut....haven't you heard? Vaccines are supposed to go to "demographics who are harder hit by COVID". Bieber is too pale to qualify. The vaccine is supposed to go to the poor, and the blacks. Dontcha read?? Cuomo said so! Racist. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vaccine+distribution+min orities&ia=web | ||
| Pwnzor |
I say let all the rich people have vaccinations first. Especially Hollywood actors. More for them, less for me. In fact, I will surrender my portion for those more fortunate than myself.... because that's just the kind of guy I am. | ||
| Tpehak |
If you that king of guy you have to take as much doses of the vaccine as possible as early as possible to save as much lives as possible from being poisoned by this fake vaccine. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Well, her dacha needed visiting. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/12/20/dr -deborah-birx-applied-covid-holiday-travel-restric tions-to-a-nation-of-proles-then-ignored-them-hers elf/ | ||
| Ratbuell |
...and has anyone noticed that CBS is now, currently, streaming "The Stand"? Convenient timing.... | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nyc-restaurant s-strike-back-cuomo-dining-ban Pure politics, zero science. The rise in cases is being Loudly Blamed on those people who are objecting to Tyrant's Whims wrecking their lives. Not rioters shipped city to city by Billionaire National Socialist Workers Party leaders. It's gotta be the fault of the bar owner in Brooklyn. That the Powers you better not Dare to speak truth to Chose not to trace their Marxist Minions disease spread is public record. Unfortunately, this editorial doesn't play well with numbers. 1.4% plague spread is from restaurants? So... Che Escargot fusion French/Bolivian cuisine killed thousands? Or is it the guy at McDonald's with his mask on his neck coughing into the fry bin? I don't have data. They don't spoon feed it to me, no link, no other numbers. 1.4%? That leaves 98.6%... Hmm. Certainly a coincidence on that number, eh? Couldn't be made up? So what IS that 98.6%? Hospitals? Wal-Mart? County Jail? Political fund raiser diners? Ikea? A store 5 hours drive away sure explains the massive rise in Rochester, NY. Couldn't be the looting the Mayor encouraged by ordering the Police to hide in the park & not engage. ( to be fair, she did shut down the "block the expressway through the city" protest after rumors started that some loons might just drive right through ) The point is, in a world where evil lies with numbers, if you're not evil, you need to give better, more complete, and with context numbers, or why should you be believed? The Left counts on worshipping tools with no critical thinking. Centrists need to prove their points. I'm fine with, heck, enjoy the Cuomo bashing. He's a very popular scum bag. That he alone Decided, based on Hard Science, of course, that wings aren't a meal, ( for purposes of bars selling food by his whim to be allowed to open ) is reason to Ban him from Buffalo, imho. I could be wrong. Bars might indeed be the reason for the Fall Spike. Or giant Trump rallys. Or the unreported stream of CCP money movers giving bags of cash to the Harris/Biden* Campaign. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Dig deeper, and you will see that NYC's transmission rate is currently 1.0 (or 1.04 - it was 1.0something on the news this morning), compared to 5.X earlier this year. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ny-covid-transmi ssion-rate-is-a-fifth-of-what-is-was-in-march/ar-B B1bxmR7 Yet...dipshit Cuomo is still in "shut down all businesses" emergency-freak-out status? For a 99.97% recovery-rate virus? I am so sick of this shit. Maryland is the same - stupid policies, haphazard rulings, ••••••• slogans ("Mask Up, Maryland!"), and now, interstate-travel quarantine rules ("Papers, pleeze..."). If we (MD residents) travel to VA, or PA, or DC (!), we're fine. But, travel to WV? We've gotta quarantine ourselves for 2 weeks. Why? Because WV has the nerve to have more relaxed mask policies, business policies...and a still-lower transmission rate than locked-down Maryland. How dare they? Keep in mind - what is "spiking"? Positive test results? Is that because there are more tests? Is that because they are still amplifying the samples more than 50x, where standard medical amplifications are between 20x and 30x, thus creating false positive results? Also keep in mind - a "positive test result" is NOT a "case". Look up the terms in a medical text. And, as always...even if these "case" counts are going up, what's happening to the fatalities? THAT'S the number I care about...and the fact they aren't talking about it tells me it's still not a species-ending amount. Last I checked, we STILL don't have any excess deaths this year compared to the last five years. Flu deaths are down. MOST deaths are down, actually...and about the same number as the 'increase' for COVID deaths. Hmmm....funny, that. | ||
| Zac4mac |
I just got home from a trip to Texas via the airlines. Three airports, Denver, Dallas and Houston were fairly crowded. The 3 planes I was on had zero empty seats. We were crammed together like sardines but we wore our sacred masks. I feel fine, open the frigging restaurants now... Z | ||
| Patches |
"The speaker suggests that masks are causing brain damage in police officers and that COVID-19 will disappear by April, both of which are claims contradicted by the available evidence. She also alleges that a trial of a new COVID-19 vaccine “made everybody positive for HIV”. However, researchers explained that while antibodies generated by the vaccine were found to lead to some false positive HIV test results, follow up tests showed no HIV virus was present." https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-hiv/f act-check-an-australian-vaccine-trial-did-not-give -trial-participants-hiv-idUSKBN28R2WT _ Australia Scraps Covid-19 Vaccine That Produced H.I.V. False Positives https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/11/world/australia /uq-coronavirus-vaccine-false-positive.html | ||
| Tpehak |
I definitely feel the mask damages my brain when I wear it so I try to reduce the time I wear the mask as much as possible. When I do shopping I do it real quick and newer wear mask outside. (Message edited by TPEHAK on December 22, 2020) | ||
| Aesquire |
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| Ducbsa |
I don't feel right calling it good news: https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Overdose-death s-far-outpace-COVID-19-deaths-in-15816356.php | ||
| Ratbuell |
I think, properly classified, ANY class of death would outpace COVID deaths. Look into "excess deaths" - https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/are-excess-de aths-in-2020-wrongly-being-attributed-to-covid-19 } Year - Total Deaths - CDC’s Reported Total U.S. Population 1999 - 2,391,399 - 279,040,168 2000 - 2,403,351 - 281,421,906 2001 - 2,416,425 - 284,968,955 2002 - 2,443,387 - 287,625,193 2003 - 2,448,288 - 290,107,933 2004 - 2,397,615 - 292,805,298 2005 - 2,448,017 - 295,516,599 2006 - 2,426,264 - 298,379,912 2007 - 2,423,712 - 301,231,207 2008 - 2,471,984 - 304,093,966 2009 - 2,437,163 - 306,771,529 2010 - 2,468,435 - 308,745,538 2011 - 2,515,458 - 311,591,917 2012 - 2,543,279 - 313,914,040 2013 - 2,596,993 - 316,128,839 2014 - 2,626,418 - 318,857,056 2015 - 2,712,630 - 321,418,820 2016 - 2,744,248 - 323,127,513 2017 - 2,813,503 - 325,719,178 2018 - 2,839,205 - 327,167,434 2019 - 2,845,796 - Not Available The most obvious falsification or error in the CDC’s method, though, is in its estimation of expected deaths in 2020 by averaging the total deaths from 2017, 2018, and 2019. Using the CDC’s numbers provided above, the average total deaths for the years 2017, 2018, and 2019 is 2,832,835. This means that the CDC expected 2,832,835 deaths in 2020; and it means that the CDC expected the total deaths to actually decrease in 2020 compared to previous years. The CDC’s method actually results in a lower number of expected deaths in 2020 than the CDC reports for both 2018 and 2019. That is a big deal. And it is absurd. The total deaths in the U.S. have reportedly not decreased compared to a previous year since 2009. In fact, according to the CDC’s data above, the deaths significantly increased several years up until 2017, 2018, and 2019 when the CDC reports that total deaths suddenly remain almost the same. The significance of the CDC’s erroneously or deceptively estimating expected deaths in 2020, then claiming that total deaths in 2020 are way above what is “expected”, and then attributing wrongly too high of “excess deaths” in 2020 to be caused by COVID-19 cannot be emphasized enough. And while one should always give others the benefit of the doubt, error does not seem to be a likely explanation for the above misrepresentation of the COVID-19 data − particularly for such a large government entity staffed with many who specialize in evaluating and interpreting numbers such as those that are above. It does not take an epidemiologist or a statistician to determine that averaging the above data from 2017, 2018, and 2019 is an absurd method for estimating the number of deaths to expect in 2020 − unless, of course, the intent is to deliberately underestimate expected deaths in 2020 as a way to wrongly attribute above-expected deaths to COVID-19. CDC's been cooking the books...for years. (Message edited by ratbuell on December 22, 2020) |
