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     Ratbuell |
I've had the mech out in the open - got the safe unlocked and open. Took the inner door plate off (sheetmetal) to access all the mechanism; disassembled the wheels to figure out what the combo was; lubed everything; reassembled and tested with door-open and it works like a champ. No vials in sight. Unless they embed it in the concrete portion, but I wouldn't think that would gas folks in the situation above. But yes, I had heard of those anti-theft devices. No porch step here, just a single step up from concrete patio, to living room floor level. The floor is 8" above the patio. | ||
| Ourdee |
Remind me to tell you some time about a vault door on a kind of safe in the Mojave desert. It had 2 combination dials. Ceiling was 12 foot thick steel reinforced concrete. It was crazy quiet in there. Almost as many square feet in there as my house. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Probably a Mosler. Their safes were some of the ONLY things (along with their contents) to survive at ground zero in Hiroshima. Once word got out about that, they were contracted to create many "entrances" for US Government facilities. http://conelrad.blogspot.com/2010/08/unbreakable-h iroshima-and-mosler-safe.html In the annals of modern advertising, it is difficult to think of a more inappropriate example of product placement than the Mosler Safe Company's Hiroshima campaign. | ||
| Ratbuell |
http://www.safeandvault.com/faq/115-gsa-containers /705-mosler-safe-company Mosler made their name with heavy and durable safes. Yeah...I can attest to that... | ||
| Aesquire |
I thought you would have found it by now.  The vials were clamped to the door, placed to block attempts at drilling into the safe, as seen in movies. Seems to have been a 1920s and early '30s thing. I've seen pictures from other safes. The local fire department is experienced in hazmat stuff, and was surprised that the stuff very specifically was not CS or CN, but a now long banned chemical weapon akin to mustard gas, but a bit less lung rotting and lots more uncontrollable vomit making. Some phenol?/sulfer?/redacted mix that they naturally don't want to be specific about, lest some maniac produce it for terrorism today. | ||
| Blake |
Joe, There's guys who have the equipment to move such things. Might be worth getting a bid. Basically it's a rubber tracked electric robotic hand truck dealio. Or maybe you can find one to rent. Video for us when you get to it. | ||
| Chauly |
Butyric acid. The only chemical in the lab closet that had the warning label :"Caution:Stench" | ||
| Zac4mac |
Butyric acid - smells like puke. Some Nimrod stuck that shit in the A/C my senior year in HS Cleared a 3400 student campus. | ||
| Aesquire |
off topic.... but I'll post the real fun stuff in the science thread. but for stenches.... https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/201 2/05/15/things_i_wont_work_with_selenophenol https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/201 0/05/07/things_i_wont_work_with_small_smelly_isocy anides in another he describes a substance that one drop evaporating made people run, puking, hundreds of yards away. He tells it funnier. | ||
| Bandm |
Any guesses why the door has the tapered steps?  | ||
| Ratbuell |
I believe it's a fireblock - more sealing surfaces allow for a better heat/fire/water seal than a single large seam. | ||
| Bandm |
No, it's a security feature, but that is an additional benefit. | ||
| Court |
To prevent Pry bar? Interesting. I recently had to learn a bit about safes as we were renovating a rather large home and I wanted to effectively conceal several "secret rooms". One entailed creating a piece of art . . . actually sending a large piece of art . . . to have it mounted to conceal one of the large safes. Architects love doing this stuff and we made the builder and his crew leave for 4 days and brought folks in from Park City, UT to do that portion of the work so no one would have details. Joe has me looking for a safe to use as a piece of furniture and . . .guess what . . there is a Mosler on eBay about 50 miles away. I probably know better than to pull into the farm with it on a trailer. :-) | ||
| Aesquire |
Anti pry bar. Speaking of tear gas.  I was given a bottle of Truff. Hot sauce with truffle oil. A lot like many basic hot sauces, Frank's or Crystal, ground peppers, heavy on the vinegar, with an earthy, odd flavor I assume is truffle. Opened it for some buddies to taste, just a little in a ramekin, and the ramekin went into the sink. Two days ago. I wash all dishes by hand, and usually daily, but if it's just a plate, and there's no real cooking, two days isn't unusual. So I'm a slob, who cares? This morning, I washed up for breakfast, and when the hot water hit the ramekin, my sinuses & eyes watered like pepper spray hit. DAng! I'll try it on wings. I suspect that this is another ego style tribe food item I just don't care for, but I'll give it a shot. It's not going to replace the rooster stuff. I don't care for fish eggs or many other gourmet foods. Goose liver, blood pudding, gas station sushi & egg sandwiches. | ||
| Bandm |
No. not anti pry bar. | ||
| Ratbuell |
OK, I googled and duckduckgo'd, and couldn't find anything useful. Is it a simple closure-alignment feature? | ||
| Bandm |
It is to prevent the use of nitroglycerin to blow the door off. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Cool. Or, apparently, nukes. Maybe I'll put a rubber gasket on the door, and keep it on the covered patio. Have the most secure dog food on the planet! | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
"Rooster stuff" =  ? | ||
| Crusty |
For flavor, I really like Tabasco Chipotle sauce. | ||
| Aesquire |
 To both. (Message edited by Aesquire on December 05, 2018) | ||
| 86129squids |
I gotta go for Tabasco Habanero. Killer. I've always loved Tabasco flavor, but the regular isn't hot enough. For Sriracha lovers, getcha some Sambal Oelek! Just a smidge hotter, but garlicky and delicious. | ||
| Zac4mac |
I don't like cayenne as much as jalapeņo and his cousins. I really like the taste of serranos. I always use them in my spaghetti sauce. As far as store sauce, my hands down favorite is Cholula Original. Been known to suck on the bottle first thing in the morning. Z | ||
| Hootowl |
This is the best stuff on Earth.  | ||
| Blake |
I wish the local grocer would stock that Tobasco Chipotle in the larger size bottle. Thai friend of mine grew some ghost pepper on his patio this past Summer. He forgot to put the gloves on before picking the first ripe fruit. Lesson learned. | ||
| Pwnzor |
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| Chauly |
Joe, the steps in the door are to keep Fido from blowing the door off with Hot Sauce, apparently, after speed reading this page.. | ||
| Ourdee |
I would go with getting all the pins to line up with the holes. | ||
| Aesquire |
No, nitroglycerin is one reason. There was a safe cracker in England who got off on an insanity plea because he kept a bottle of nitroglycerin on his mantle. He must be crazy, right? The technique was to put clay around the door opening, with a small cup like bit at the top, pour nitroglycerin into the seam, and blow the door off. The stepped door design creates multiple seals to limit the liquid ingress, so the nitro just deforms the outside steps. It's also an anti pry bar system, but explosions were the primary reason. Good call. | ||
| Crusty |
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