| Author | Message | ||
     Drkside79 |
Come on California! Get out and vote yes! Take a page from us Chicagoans VOTE EARLY AND VOTE OFTEN!!!!  | ||
| No_rice |
id only vote yes for it if there was a stronger policy on what it takes to actually get a prescription for it. currently if you have a fake headache you could get one. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
I'd vote yes on that one.... tax the crap out of it Get all the people out of jail that had a baggy in their pocket and save even more tax dollars. Is it to late to get prostitution on the ballet? | ||
| Strokizator |
Simple possession is already treated the same as a traffic ticket (nobody's in jail for having a baggy in their pocket). There may be laws against it in the books but they are hardly enforced. As far as taxes go, if you think the moonshiners hate revenuers, just wait until the people in Humbolt County try their luck. We're talking Nascar West! Yeehaw! | ||
| Drkside79 |
Not sure why anyone wouldn't vote for it. It's funny as many of the opponents drink themselves into a stupor on a regular basis. (at least in my experience) Not meant to be a jab at anyone here in the slightest. (Message edited by drkside79 on October 26, 2010) | ||
| Cityxslicker |
take a page from Seattle, apparently we are letting 'illegals' in the vote. sure just get your forged documents together come on down and vote, its illegal for them to ask if you are a citizen, what you are here and living on the rolls of democratic support, come cast your vote for their reelection. this country sickens me at times. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Get all the people out of jail that had a baggy in their pocket that's Cali.... what bout Texas take it National... and pay for health care.... WOOO HOOOO | ||
| Drkside79 |
Man city sorry to hear about your illegal woes up there in Seattle. Here in Chicago people just vote using the "Illegals" (who by the way are busy working) SSN as well as the SSN of most of Graceland Cemetery and Resurrection and.... | ||
| Drkside79 |
Oh and we have the damn baggy problem here as well. In Texas though it's probably punishable by lethal injection.. j/k | ||
| No_rice |
Not sure why anyone wouldn't vote for it. It's funny as many of the opponents drink themselves into a stupor on a regular basis. (at least in my experience) Not meant to be a jab at anyone here in the slightest. id only vote yes for it if there was a stronger policy on what it takes to actually get a prescription for it. currently if you have a fake headache you could get one. not taking that personally at all, but i dont drink very often either. ive got better stuff to do, and am fairly good at being happy(the majority of the time) without needing any alternate substances to improve my day or whatever youd like to call it. i also dont need it to "relax" or take the edge off(many of the excuses ive heard for both things) its life. figure out how to deal with it because it probably isnt going away... thats why i have bikes, or even tools... or friends... and my family. i know plenty of people who cant seem to pay their bills, but can always find money for the other stuff. only thing that stops them most the time is finding someone that has any to sell half the time. make it more readily available and that no longer keeps any money in there pocket. yes thats their problem, and they should have better priorities, but we all know how that works. id say it would be great for the state or who ever to get income from the taxing of it and such, but we all know it wont help anything. they will make stupid decisions and piss away the money and nothing will improve. why would anyone think this would change that? and as i side note, i have plenty of friends that partake. doesnt mean they arent my friends, just means that we agree to disagree as long as they can respect my wishes not to bring stuff to my house or in my vehicles. if im at there house and they chose to do something, its my decision to stay or go. no hard feelings either way. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
you just know if drugs were FREE there would be no crime, legalize it pffft make it free ....... wee, love me some sliding slope. how long before medicare/medicaid pay for 'medical' marijuana?.... enjoy, its next. | ||
| Firstbuell |
in my garage is a great sticker - "Only Users Lose Drugs" | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
There was a study awhile ago that porved that within 10-15 years if pot was legal and was taxed and everything that we could PAY OFF our deficit! Treat it like alcohol even, but i see NO reason as to why it should be illegal.. I mean you could shut down a HUGE market for the cartels, not to mention if we opened up trade with mexico or other nations, not only could we pay off our debt, but the other countries could as well!! WIN WIN!! Jake | ||
| Cityxslicker |
with all the pot smoking hippies and baby boomer woodstock wannabees... Nat'l pot is next. remember a doped public is easily duped. I am surprised that they havent come out and decided to PAY your wages in mari jane. think of the bail out that cheetos and nabisco would get from it.... sarcastic as I have never smoked, but not so far off as you know the damn hippies are ginnin up the arguement state by state. | ||
| Sifo |
Get all the people out of jail that had a baggy in their pocket and save even more tax dollars. What states throw you in jail for a small amount? I know a number of people that have been caught with bags, even one caught dealing at a local forest preserve with no jail time. I also know someone who served five years in the fed. pen. but not for a couple of bags. I think that argument is a total red herring. | ||
| Fast1075 |
Legalize it and tax it...folk gonna hit it either way. No way should it be illegal under appropriate conditions. And I know plenty of intelligent and highly successful people that have a hit or two from time to time. Weed does not belong on any dangerous drug list, unless you include alcohol and ciggs. The "movement" to make pot illegal was a masterpiece of yellow journalism. Hurst and his cronies drummed it all up to sell newspapers by depicting Tex/Mex people as perverts from smoking demon weed...of course the rest of the sheeple smacking at the lips for more juicy drama swallowed the whole thing lock, stock, and barrel...the politicos rode it to death... I have seen a lot of people in bad shape that had their life improved by having access to weed....It is something that the creator has given us...it is up to us to use it properly. And that my friends is as liberal as anyone will ever see me...but it is honestly the way I feel. | ||
| Sifo |
There is still the issue that it's against Federal law. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Is it to late to get prostitution on the ballet? Hmm, Swan Lake in stiletto heels? Might work. Interesting article in Reuters the other day about what would happen to the Mexican drug cartels if pot was made legal in California. Going off Sifo's point: lesson learned the hard/sad way, and it was local, btw, licensed users now have to agree to all the police forces getting their names. There was a well planned, multi-force bust that went bad because the police didn't know users were legal. Really nobody's fault. Something to keep in mind as the laws evolve.} | ||
| Doerman |
I voted against it for this reason: No additional revenue stream to CA government. They spend like drunken sailors already, this just worsens their addiction. I don't like drugs, but I have to live up to my libertarian view; which is to let my fellow citizen choose their own destiny. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I hope that California approves Prop 19. I then hope that the Federal Government swoops in and squashes it. There would be no better poetic justice for California (and the 9th Circuit) in their zeal to elect people with no respect for the Constitution and complete disregard for the 10th Amendment. | ||
| Bigblock |
make up your mind FB, do you want the people to VOTE and legalize, which would be the most democratic and constitutional thing, or do you want the fed to come in and squash it, after the people VOTE IT IN? Think about it. You want your cake and eat it too? Pretty vindictive line of thought, and not very patriotic. Are you a communist  | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
I just want it to be legal so potheads won't have anything left to talk about. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
California, in general, doesn't believe in State's Rights, The 10th Amendment, or limited Federal Powers. I suspect that California, in general, believes in legalizing pot. Legalizing pot will contravene current Federal Law. Passing Prop 19 will create a legal showdown in which California is fighting itself. I find that terribly poetic and ironic. | ||
| Hootowl |
The federal law banning drugs is justified (though not in my opinion) by the interstate commerce clause. Pot grown and consumed in California does not fall under interstate trade. How can the feds regulate non interstate commerce? What article of the Constitution grants them that power? Montana is trying to do the same thing with firearms by the way. I hope it passes. I'll enjoy the legal proceedings that will follow. I want all the federal laws that base their authority on a misinterpretation of the commerce clause to quiver in their proverbial boots. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Agreed. The same battle is occurring right now with 35 states and Obamacare. What is funny to me is that in the zeal to legalize pot, CA, the majority of whom support socialized medicine and single payor health, my supply the best legal precedent for its revocation. | ||
| Sifo |
The federal law banning drugs is justified (though not in my opinion) by the interstate commerce clause. If it's covered by insurance, then suddenly it will be part of interstate commerce as part of the transaction. Is your insurance covered by the commerce clause? According to BO it is. | ||
| Hootowl |
That's funny, and not in a good way, but you're right. Low sperm count is a covered condition under most medical plans. Can semen be regulated by the feds now? Will I need a license to distribute? Progressives have been trying for decades to implement population controls. Perhaps this is their back door? LOL | ||
| Court |
Cool . . legalize it. Then require a drug test as a condition precedent to obtaining car insurance and let underwriters price it. Now we're talking revenue stream. Count me in the "who much cares what they do" camp . . . I was in Venice Beach recently and if it's not legal someone forgot to tell the locals. The feds can't enforce their immigration laws . . no reason to think they'll handle this any better. Eric Holder is an apprentice. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
 pretty sure this covers it... | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Insurance is NOT covered by the commerce clause. Each insurance policy is state specific and must be approved by the individual state insurance commissioner. There is no 50 state approved insurance policy that I know of. Even if pot is covered by insurance, it would be covered by insurance in and of the state of California. |
