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Pwnzor
| | Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 09:34 pm: | 
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There are some odd similarities between iPhone fan boys and GSXR fan boys.
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Chadhargis
| | Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 09:52 pm: |
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But I sold my Gixxer.... |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 06:04 pm: |
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What pisses me off is that they were selling the bumper for $29, now they're giving it away since it only costs them THREE DOLLARS to make. I think we all knew iPhone accessories are horribly overpriced, but that little revelation puts in in stark relief. |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 08:11 am: |
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Working in retail one-thing-or-another for the last decade...that's the free market economy. You charge what the market will bear. If you start losing sales and items pile up on shelves, or your competitors in your market start blanket discounting...you have to cut pricing to match the market (demand).
Is a $3 to $29 markup excessive to me? Sure. But obviously they were selling 'em, so they charged what the market would bear.
It also helps that Apple locks down most of their items so they are the ONLY place you can get accessories; they don't have to compete with other manufacturers, so they've cornered their market. |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 08:54 am: |
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Sony did/does the same thing.
Used to be that the only place you could get power cords and accessories for Sony electronics was Sony. |
Froggy
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 10:20 am: |
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What is funny is that if a certain company who's name starts with Micro tried to do that and many other things that Apple does, the FTC would be all over them for anti trust violations. |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 10:22 am: |
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Lots of folks make iPhone/iPod accessories, not just Apple. |
Firebolt020283
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 10:58 am: |
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What accessorie for the iphone/ipod is only made by apple? there is other companies that make head phone, cases, cables, docks, speakers, and even alarm clocks for these devices a lot of these items are not even made by apple. Sure they might be carried at the apple stores but that does not mean they are made by apple. |
Froggy
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 11:08 am: |
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quote:What accessorie for the iphone/ipod is only made by apple?
Macbook power chargers. Apple refuses to license out use of that magnetic tip. Because of Apple, you cannot even get a 12v charger to recharge while in the car.
Also, Apple charges $4 per item for licenses on the things they will allow, whether its cases, proprietary docks, keyboards, etc. Due to this high cost, many items are unauthorized "knock offs", and this is partly why the authorized accessories are so expensive. Not to mention the incompatibility with other devices |
Gentleman_jon
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 11:48 am: |
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Apple refuses to license out use of that magnetic tip. Because of Apple, you cannot even get a 12v charger to recharge while in the car.
That statement would be, without putting too fine a point on it, inaccurate.
http://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Charger-MacBook-13-3 inch-MA255LL/dp/B003F41F3E
It sometimes appears that making imprecise statements about apple products is an occupational hazard among certain pc fan boys.
I can imagine why this is so. Maybe the result of having to live with so much bloat wear, or some darn thing.
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Firebolt020283
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 11:52 am: |
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I was just about to correct that because I have a non-apple charger for my macbook I bought off of ebay. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 11:56 am: |
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quote:What is funny is that if a certain company who's name starts with Micro tried to do that and many other things that Apple does, the FTC would be all over them for anti trust violations.
If Apple gets a 70%+ market share, the FTC will then start hounding them as well. The FTC is very reactive, and has a lot more problems then time and staff. |
Badlionsfan
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 01:20 pm: |
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 06:04 pm:
What pisses me off is that they were selling the bumper for $29, now they're giving it away since it only costs them THREE DOLLARS to make. I think we all knew iPhone accessories are horribly overpriced, but that little revelation puts in in stark relief.
And anyone who already bought a bumper will be refunded. |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 02:10 pm: |
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Yep. It was a general rant about the jacked up prices of anything for an iPhone, not against Apple specifically for that particular item. Good on them for stepping up. |
Bcordb3
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 02:14 pm: |
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}, now they're giving it away since it only costs three dollars to make.
I thnk about .50 including packing and shipping. They are made in China and shipped by the ton. |
Blake
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 05:25 pm: |
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I cursed Apple computers, despised them. They didn't work, they crashed way too often, and the hardware broke.
The iPhone 3G has been a great phone for me, best I've owned. It also provides good GPS voice directions and Internet browsing. It's form factor is exceptional. Clean, smooth, compact, just impeccably designed. Best phone for voice quality and speaker-phone operation that I've had.
iPhone naysayers seem on par with Buell naysayers.
The AT&T reception is a valid gripe, but is unrelated to the phone's quality.
iPhone paired with Verizon would be excellent. |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 06:31 pm: |
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iPhone paired with Verizon would be excellent.
The TV adds should hit in August.
I'm not a fan of Apple products. That said, I'd probably have an iPhone were it compatible with my needs and weren't on the AT&T network.
AT&T was a third string network before the iPhone. They sold their soul to Apple in order to get the subscribers.
AT&T was the second choice. Verizon was the first choice:
"While Cingular (er, AT&T, but you know what we mean) couldn't seem prouder of its iPhone exclusivity, apparently Apple's first choice was Verizon, but the two companies couldn't agree on a deal that worked for both companies. "We said no." Said Jim Gerace, a VZW VP. "We have nothing bad to say about the Apple iPhone. We just couldn't reach a deal that was mutually beneficial." Talks began as far back as two years ago, but Apple's demands were steep. They also give us an idea of what exactly is behind the Apple / Cingular agreement: Apple wanted a percentage of monthly service fees, control over distribution that would limit iPhone sales to Apple and Verizon stores, and even some control over service and support for iPhone customers. "They would have been stepping in between us and our customers to the point where we would have almost had to take a back seat ... on hardware and service support," say Gerace. Cingular doesn't quite see it that way, so perhaps Apple changed its conditions a bit when it started courting Cingy. Says Mark Siegel, a Cingular spokesman, "I don't want to leave the impression that these (iPhone) customers are not ours. They are." Mark also mentioned that Cingular would field calls related to wireless service, and that "We think this is a win for Apple, and it is a win for Cingular." Whether consumers -- who would have presumably had a fair shot at an EV-DO iPhone with Verizon as a service provider -- will win in the end is yet to be seen."
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Badlionsfan
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 07:10 pm: |
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Ft, until it comes out of steve jobs or verizons mouth, don't hold your breath.
If iPhone becomes available on verizon, it'll be when their 4g network is up and running across a good chunk of the US. That's my guess. |
Pwnzor
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 07:35 pm: |
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I maintain my assertion that iPhone is not coming to Verizon. I've read sooooo many threads over the last few years, people saying they have inside information etc...
It still hasn't happened, and quite frankly my belief is that if there was any credence to it, the underground developers would be buzzing about it and there would be beta roms already available. They aren't buzzing, and there aren't any roms.
This is my opinion, and as I said before I'll eat my words if I'm wrong. |
Rex
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 07:39 pm: |
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I had an Iphone and loved it...It did everything I needed it to do. I did purchase the new phone, because my old phone would be 2 generations down. It is fast and does a good job for me. Apparently when testing of the phones they had covers over them, so you would not know it was a new phone...maybe the covers covered over more than the phone......I would be putting a case on my anyway, since i drop them or put them down on things all of time.....my new iphone is fine...wouldn't be without one.
My son is an iphone guy, and went to Droid....it was cool, but sold it after 3 weeks. Just didn't do what the iphone did. He is getting a new iphone and picked up an ipad. The ipad is cool...very fast. |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 07:49 pm: |
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I too didn't believe that the iPhone would be coming to Verizon.
The only information I have is from my friend who sells Television ad space.
The time has been sold. She has the paid invoice.
Now they may not use the sold time, but they have paid for it.
Time For Verizon iPhone As Apple-AT&T Relationship Reportedly Has Been Strained? |
Badlionsfan
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 07:50 pm: |
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I'm generally not a case guy. I keep my phone in my front pocket behind my wallet, and cases make the phone stick to the wallet when I try to get it out and also increase the bulkiness of the phone. I always get one when I get a new phone but never end up using it. This bumper for the iPhone 4 is pretty tolerable, and the built in metal buttons make it function well. |
Firemanjim
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 08:00 pm: |
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Hey, I have 2 GSXR's----- but no i-phone!!!!! } |
Blake
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 03:00 pm: |
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You poor, poor soul. A person would have to own a dynamometer to compensate for such horrendous shortcoming. |
Froggy
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 03:28 pm: |
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quote:It sometimes appears that making imprecise statements about apple products is an occupational hazard among certain pc fan boys.
My statement was 100% accurate. Apple will not license out the patented MagSafe connector. I cannot get a tip for my charger with MagSafe due to this. I have seen some people buy broken wall chargers and cut off MagSafe tip just so they can splice it and use for their own chargers. Apple will not make a car charger, so what that company did was purchase a bulk order of MagSafe tips from Apple to use on their product. I don't know why Apple let them buy it if they won't license it out for anyone to use. |
Phelan
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 04:38 pm: |
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Probably the same reason I can get brand new parts for my 3GS shipped from China for $3-15 each, eg. 3 mpxl 3GS camera $6, replacement top speaker $3, antenna/flex cable/charge port/ loud speaker assembly $11, replacement audio jack $9, replacement screen/digitizer $10, replacement shell $10-30 depending on desired color, etc...
BTW I have dismantled and repaired iPhones before and it's not rocket science- just tedious. I could change a battery in about 45 min. |
Firebolt020283
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 04:55 pm: |
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I still have to disagree with you froggy as I have in my possession a magsafe wall charger that is not made by apple. I would take a picture of it and the original but I would have to wait for my wife to get back in to town with the original apple brand. So if apple does not let other companies make magsafe products how did this one come about? |
Rich
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 05:07 pm: |
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I bought a car charger from Radio Shack for my Itouch, it works fine on the Iphone. |
Froggy
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 05:30 pm: |
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Either they are unauthorized knock offs, or they buy official tips in bulk from Apple and splice them on their product, like I said above. Apple will not license the tip patent, so it limits product support to whatever anyone is creative enough to be able to splice the thing onto.
http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/07/09/appl e.targets.three.for.copying.magsafe.design/
www.9to5mac.com/apple_power_lawsuit_30116 |
Phelan
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 08:31 pm: |
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While browsing the same site, what's your take on this, Froggy? Seems the app market is becoming somewhat lopsided according to many developers.
http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/06/21/atti tude.shows.strength.of.apples.ios/ |
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