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     Gwb |
Steve Jobs claims that he/Apple did not know about the IPhone4's antenna problems before Apple released it for sale. Given the current state of antenna design, coupled with the current state of mobile-phone design, along with Apple's own supposed quality-assurance requirements, I say that is a bald-faced lie. | ||
| Court |
Looks . . . like one of two, equally disconcerting . . . scenarios. ONE: They knew and somehow thought they could ride the "Apple Fad Wave" right past many folks wiser than the Apple engineering staff. I don't have to be a genius to know the service on my current iPhone absolutely sucks. I couldn't take any worse service. This it the "they lied" scenario. It's bad. TWO: They didn't know. This is almost worse. Apple, following the path they are currently holding to, is essentially saying we are stupid and didn't know how to test our own product. The ethical and moral element of the first is alarming . . Who knows which it is? Someone will find out as lawsuits are being filed quickly. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I don't know if he's a "liar" or not, but his phones suck as phones. | ||
| Jaimec |
No mention at all of the relocated proximity sensor causing some people to "Face Dial" another number while they're already on the phone with someone...? The sensor was relocated to make room for the forward facing camera. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
My Samsung Moment Android phone "face dials" on occasion. All the so-called smart phones have issues of one kind or another. It's amazing the tech that goes into them. I have apps that turn my phone into a compass, a level, a metal detector and a police scanner. | ||
| Azxb9r |
They probably knew about it, but too late to do anything about it and still meet the announced "launch date". The logic was probably along the lines of...release the product with a known glitch, but work on a fix for at at the same time. Hopefully you will not have too many complaints before you can come up with a fix, then you just deal with a few warranties (okay...maybe more than a few). In an effort to be the first one to release the latest and greatest new gizmo, there are a lot of products that get released prematurely. | ||
| Reindog |
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| Doughnut |
My phone can't do shit, but. . . I can make a call on it. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Reindog, That is awesome! | ||
| Danger_dave |
>>I don't know if he's a "liar" or not, but his phones suck as phones.<< Obviously why they only sold 10 million of them hey. | ||
| Danger_dave |
>>there are a lot of products that get released prematurely.<< Did someone say 1125R fuel injection? | ||
| Danger_dave |
I got a new iPod touch this week. iPhone without the phone - because I just don't care about mobile phones. Just checked my account - the last call I made on my 'cheapest handset I could buy' was in March. I just really like the apple gizmos as an entertainment toy. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Obviously why they only sold 10 million of them hey. When iPhone gets to the 14M sold by Blackberry, we'll talk. http://www.rimarkable.com/the-blackberry-is-the-nu mber-1-smartphone-in-the-world The number one complaint of iPhone users is that they suck as phones (dropped calls, poor reception, poor voice quality, etc.). http://www.appcraver.com/iphone-complaints/ | ||
| Danger_dave |
Point was, If you want an communications/entertaimnent device/gizmo that has a phone in it the apple is a great phone. If you want a phone get the blackberry. Bit like an XB12X and other motorcycles. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Why bother pretending it's a phone? It will be interesting to see if the phone features are any better when iPhone hits Verizon in August. | ||
| Danger_dave |
Hell I dunno, or care, maybe it isn't as good as other phones, some experts say it is, too, but I bought a killer racing game last night. Six bucks. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I talk over 3000-4000 minutes a month on my phone for business. The last thing I want to do is to have to spend those 3000-4000 minutes battling weak signals and dropped calls. I'm sure the iPhone's a fun toy. | ||
| Rah7777777 |
I think they actually might not have had a problem with there test phones before release. Out of the 4 people ( including myself ) I know with a new iPhone 4, not 1 has had this odd antenna problem. Not saying it's fake as you can see the vids on YouTube, but not all iphones are cursed. Not sure what the issues is with the cursed phones tho??? | ||
| Danger_dave |
I know people who have that sort of use on their iPhones too (I was just talking to one about this topic). He's on the Vodafone network and really likes the machine. Like me he likes Arai helmets a lot too. Bwahahahah. | ||
| Jwblue |
The title of this thread asks 'Is Steve Jobs a Liar?' The answer is YES: Apple knowingly sold their loyal customers a flawed product. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I know people who have that sort of use on their iPhones too (I was just talking to one about this topic). He's on the Vodafone network and really likes the machine. Good for him. Here AT&T's network sucks. | ||
| Brighton |
Did Steve Jobs Lie? I don't know. I know my wife lied to me: She said she loved me but she married me ANYWAY! Another flawed product. | ||
| Froggy |
That is hard to prove, but the conspiracy theorists say thats why there was the "bumper" case available at launch, when Apple has just let the aftermarket make cases in the past. | ||
| Damnut |
Blackberry's suck too. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
now after all this bad PR, I wonder if Verizon really wants the problems that the iPhone brings with it. They already have the Blackberry and Google Android phones. This is going to get interesting, stay tuned! | ||
| Froggy |
Hmm looks like you can get a free bumper case now http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/07/16/consumer .reports.iphone.case/index.html?hpt=C1 | ||
| Pwnzor |
Blah blah blah.... crackberry this, iFail that.... Your blackberry works well as a phone IF: you're on Verizon. Everybody I know with a sprint or at&t 'berry has absolute shit call quality. I like all the things my Droid does, but at the end of the day it is a very excellent phone. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Verizon is the network. I've had Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T. It's why I'm with Verizon. I would have gotten the Droid if my fat fingers could have reached the top row of the slide out key board. I REALLY wanted one. | ||
| Bcordb3 |
What is the problem, you don't like the I PHONE! Don't get it! Jobs offered a fix, He offered to take the phone back and relieve you from your ATT contract. WHAT MORE CAN HE DO? OFFER AN EGG IN YOUR BEER? Its going to around 120 F. here, today, I am going for a ride before the streets melt. THAT IS SOMETHING TO BITCH ABOUT! | ||
| Reepicheep |
It smells to me like the following scenario... probably akin to one played out at Harley Davidson many times... Steve Jobs (designer) says "this is what I want it to look like". Engineers say "it can't". Jobs says "do it or I will replace you with somebody else who will". Par for the course... the problem is, that the last 5 times that gauntlet was thrown, the engineers somehow pulled a rabbit out of their hat and made it work... mostly... at a high cost and high risk. So Jobs thinks he is a genius, his engineers always do that, and that he can just keep that theme. This sixth time, the hat was fresh out of rabbits. And at the same time, they had the hardware leak and word got out about new features, and everybody stopped buying the current IPhone in order to wait for the new one. So the current sales tanked, and there was a huge demand for new sales, and the pressure kept building... The perfect storm... |
