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Hootowl
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 09:19 am: | 
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"Anyone notice anything odd?"
Training wheels? |
No_rice
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 09:20 am: |
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lmao, you realize i am going to have to make that my comp background here at work... damnit! lol |
Spiderman
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 10:13 am: |
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Just give credit  |
Buell2001b
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 02:18 pm: |
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OMG, what a piece of Art and Engineering.
great job guys at EBR |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 10:13 pm: |
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I got the scoop.
The lower part of the "radiator" is in fact an oil cooler.
The top part of the "radiator" is in fact the split radiators rotated 90 degrees so that they face forward instead of out to the side.
So it is a three "radiator" set up with one of them being filled with oil.
Cool! |
Cringblast
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 12:01 am: |
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Birdy
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 05:52 pm: |
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I was out on my XB and come home the these Photos...you guys are just EVIL!!
I mean where do I get the money for a 1190 and a house on the other side of the pond so I could ride it? |
Boltrider
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 10:15 pm: |
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Hell yeah!! 
It also has the more angular airbox cover like the 'Cuda had. |
Gunut75
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 10:26 pm: |
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BOIOIOIOIOIOINNNGGGGG! I want one too!!! |
46champ
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 10:26 pm: |
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Does it have the different air box cover because it has the correct volume for 1190cc? I have read that air box volume is predicated on single cylinder displacement. Does anyone know if the XB airbox volume was designed for the XB9 and the XB12's and 1125's airbox was smaller than optimum? |
Vanvideo
| | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 01:46 pm: |
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It makes me wonder - had Buell gone with this design instead of the 1125R, would Buell still be around?
That the 1125's design is controversial is putting it mildly. Would the 1190 have sold a lot better? It sure looks a lot better, in my opinion. |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 02:12 pm: |
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would Buell still be around?
Bike sales might have been slightly better with different styling, but the decision to kill Buell had little to do with sales.
Buell could have sold every bike they made and still met the same end.
It was slightly financial and mostly political. |
Court
| | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 03:01 pm: |
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>>>but the decision to kill Buell had little to do with sales.
It had absolutely NOTHING to do with sales.
It was ENTIRELY attributable to two people. One of whom has left to "pursue other interests" and another who will.
Expect to hear more.
Buell, Erik and the company, came out the greatest benefactor having been freed of the chains of Harley-Davidson.
That's not to minimize the things that HD has done over the years to get Buell to where they are today. Credit where credit is due.
However . . don't for one minute . . . get drawn into the silly "if it had not been for Harley-Davidson" dialogue.
Harley-Davidson did the deal in February 1993 but there was another major company in line wanting to team up with Erik.
I suspect that Erik Buell and Buell Motorcycles will fare quite well.
Most of the silliness you read on the internet about "deals", "who owns what" and so forth are great internet discussion topics but are sorely lacking in facts.
I suspect you may (or minds may have changed) and you may not . . . hear much more about this in some upcoming publications. By the way. Erik Buell has nothing to do with anything that may be published and I suspect some of the mags may retreat rather than stir up a major advertiser by airing some gory details.
What's done is done and there's no better strategy than to look ahead. |
Ulynut
| | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 03:41 pm: |
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What's done is done and there's no better strategy than to look ahead.
I wholeheartedly agree. I can't wait to see what happens next. At the same time, I really really want to know what went down so we can all learn from it. |
Boltrider
| | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 06:04 pm: |
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I'm wondering who the 2 mudslingers are. |
2008xb12scg
| | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 06:19 pm: |
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Didn't Buell sales go up the past few years while the other moto cos sales went down across the board? Sales had little to do with it I'm sure. It's sad, but then again would H.D. really have let the 1190 out of the cage? I believe I read that they wouldn't even let the 1125r have fairings.. please correct me if I'm wrong on those points. In the end if (and I for one have faith) Erik sells street bikes again they will for sure be better of without the cluster F%%k that is know as Harley.. |
Court
| | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 06:53 pm: |
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>>>Didn't Buell sales go up the past few years while the other moto cos sales went down across the board?
Buell sales increased 55% over the past 5 years.
Harley-Davidson sales increased 9% in the past 5 years.
Buell was the only American motorcycle company (there are 3 . . . Buell, Harley-Davidson and Victory . . . that did NOT experience any decline in sales.
CAVEAT: I'll be the first to admit that comparing nominal numbers between HD and Buell is little more than entertainment. Buell and Victory however is an excellent comparison. In addition, it deflates any argument for dispatching Buell based on sales, revenues and so forth.
Be mindful that the same folks, save two, who dispatched Buell had . . . in the prior accounting period . . just announced the construction of a new Buell World Headquarters.
Any argument based on dollars gets darned tough to draw towards the centerline of the logic highway.
Buells TOTAL ASSETS were $3.19M based on the 3Q 10-K.
The majority of "Buell" expenses were HD employees, folks like Paul James ( and this is no reflection on Paul) and the closing of Buell had no effect on them. I am aware of nobody at Buell Distribution Corporation who lost their job as a result of Buell being closed.
All the silly internet chatter about trademarks, who owns what and non-compete agreements . .. are not totally without merit . . but are generally little more than a distraction in a conversation.
By the way . . . . one nice thing about being ERIK BUELL is that you own the name ERIK BUELL and no one can take that away. Worst case scenario we'd be stuck riding ERIK BUELL MOTORCYCLES.
Erik is free of the mental gum that was on his shoe. |
Lemonchili_x1
| | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 06:55 pm: |
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"...I read that they wouldn't even let the 1125r have fairings."
I found that too, reading an old interview with Erik about the release of the 1125R where he said something along the lines of management not allowing a full fairing.
(Note the VR1000 didn't have a full fairing either - internal H-D policy?)
I'm starting to suspect that H-D compromised the design of our bikes more than I ever realised.
"What's done is done and there's no better strategy than to look ahead."
First Sound of Thunder round is in a few weeks, and hopefully now that people can see the 1190RR there will be a few more sales...
 Just a gut feeling, but I guess you could say "Train's coming". |
Hughlysses
| | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 08:10 pm: |
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I found that too, reading an old interview with Erik about the release of the 1125R where he said something along the lines of management not allowing a full fairing.
Confirmed in a recent Anony post in another thread: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=290431&post=1762211#POST1762211 |
Kenm123t
| | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 08:37 pm: |
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Court when and where do we send orders for new Erik Buell street bikes? We can pre pay if that helps
To steal the old Honda phrase You meet the nicest people on a Buell! |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:46 am: |
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With regard to radiator placement, the forward facing radiators may only work at race speeds, in the same way that the reverse flow side mounted radiators on the 1125R race bikes don't work on the street.
Just a thought. I have no idea. |
B00stzx3
| | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:50 am: |
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So...next year...streetbikes again? I'd take another Bolt, 1125 or 1190. |
46champ
| | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:15 am: |
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A blast that is half of an 1125 would be kind of cool. Then someone could go dirt track racing without being part of H-D. |
Rainman
| | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:24 am: |
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A Blast that's half of a 1125 would be sweet on the street. |
Blackm2
| | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:44 am: |
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I still see 2 radiators side mounted on that frontal view. Noone else sees that? |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 01:01 pm: |
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We've already stated that. The link also stated that.
It's still a split radiator system.
There are no fans behind the radiators as far as I know.
There weren't on the 1125RR. |
Gnx423
| | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 06:09 pm: |
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I don't see why you couldn't convert a 1125r to look similar/same assuming the parts were made available from EBR. Ok, who is going to be the first to do it? I wouldnt be surprised to see one by the end of the month with this group...
Mike |
Cyclonedon
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 12:53 am: |
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Worst case scenario we'd be stuck riding ERIK BUELL MOTORCYCLES.
if that's the case, I could actually enjoy the worst case scenario!  |
Iman501
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 12:59 am: |
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I don't see why you couldn't convert a 1125r to look similar/same assuming the parts were made available from EBR. Ok, who is going to be the first to do it? I wouldnt be surprised to see one by the end of the month with this group...
sounds somewhat like a challenge!....
hmmmm i guess i'll have to go n get me an 1125R! |
