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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm surprised it took this long. Can't wait for the airport anal probing to begin

(CBS) Al Qaeda has developed a new tactic that allows suicide bombers to breach even the tightest security, as CBS News correspondent Sheila MacVicar reports.

Inside a Saudi palace, the scene was the bloody aftermath of an al Qaeda attack in August aimed at killing Prince Mohammed Bin Nayef, head of Saudi Arabia's counter terrorism operations.

To get his bomb into this room, Abdullah Asieri, one of Saudi Arabia's most wanted men, avoided detection by two sets of airport security including metal detectors and palace security. He spent 30 hours in the close company of the prince's own secret service agents - all without anyone suspecting a thing.

How did he do it?

Taking a trick from the narcotics trade - which has long smuggled drugs in body cavities - Asieri had a pound of high explosives, plus a detonator inserted in his rectum.

This was a meticulously planned operation with al Qaeda once again producing something new: this time, the Trojan bomber.

The blast left the prince lightly wounded - a failure as an assassination, but as an exercise in defeating security, it was perfect.

The bomber persuaded the prince he wanted to leave al Qaeda, setting a trap.

Al Qaeda has an animated movie showing the meeting between the bomber and the prince. Asieri says more senior al Qaeda figures want to surrender and convinces the prince to talk to them on a cell phone.

In the conversation recorded by al Qaeda, you hear a beep in the middle of two identical phrases that are repeated by the bomber and his handler.

Explosives experts tell CBS News that beep was likely a text message activating the bomb concealed inside Asieri.

The Trojan bomber hands the phone to Prince Mohammed. He's standing next to him, and 14 seconds later, he detonates.

"This is the nightmare scenario," said Chris Yates, an aviation security consultant.

On a plane at altitude, the effects of such a bomb could be catastrophic. And there is no current security system that could stop it.

"Absolutely nothing other than to require people to strip naked at the airport," said Yates.

And al Qaeda says it will share its new technique via the Internet very soon. There is nothing that can stop that either.

at http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/28/eveningn ews/main5347847.shtml
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Wolf102
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thats just great.thats another reason for me to drive instead of flying
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've had burritos worse than that.
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Midknyte
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rectum? Damn near killed 'im



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Xb12xmike
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't wanna give anyone any ideas but...You know how people sell their kidneys for 10k on the black market?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It really is a shame that the CIA cant run a training camp on how to create these, insert em, give them all pre programmed numbers.....
and just light the sky up at night with them for graduation.

radical terrorist fodder; wanna win hearts and minds of the enemy? two to the chest and one to the head.
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Patches
Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Silent KILLER
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Eh, I hate flying anyway.

I wish all those would go ahead and plant bombs in their own asses and get it over with.

~SM
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


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Roadcouch98
Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"HUHUHUHUHuh, He said ASS-ASS-ination HUHUHuh" as voiced in Butthead's voice.
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Xb12mel
Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"And there is no current security system that could stop it."

Uh yeah.... Ever get a text message while on the plane? Plus, unless it's a short flight, a person "sitting" on a pound of high explosives should be easy to spot.... Just look for the guy who looks like he needs a big ol tube of Preparation H!!!
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why would a suicide bomber need a text message to set off his bomb? There are plenty of other ways to do the same thing without requiring a phone call.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do we know what kind of explosive was used? I'm betting it was a weapon of ass destruction.
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Whatever
Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can't an explosive sniffing dog detect this? Shouldn't the guy have some trace of explosives on himself somewhere? I don't understand how we-- the US-- the most technologically advanced country in the world could not detect an a$$ bomb. WTF?
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Fast1075
Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hootowl....now thats some funny schnizit right there!!! I spewed my tea on the monitor....
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Geforce
Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's the issue with this...

A suicide bomber has to take a few things into consideration before they "pop." It's a give and take thing.

The amount of explosives required vs. the desired effect...

The amount of concealment required vs the desired effect...

Without giving out to much information on the subject for obvious reasons... you have to understand that only a "small" amount of explosives can be placed inside a rectal cavity of a "container" or person. This is going to create a number of undesired effects...

One being the fact that all the tissue and mass surrounding the explosives isn't going to help with the desired effect. It is going to "muffle" the effect quite a bit. Do not confuse this with tamping... Tamping is what we use to aide us in explosive capability. Water is an amazing tamping agent, earth, wood, buffer materials... but this all depends on the type of explosive being used...

That is another lesson altogether.

With the amount of bone density and mass that is in the pelvic region of the human body you would have to have some very serious explosive material to do very serious damage... This is partly due to the fact that the initial blast travels outward and most likely omnidirectional upon detonation. By doing so in the pelvic region the rapidly expanding heat, gas and pressure would have to cut and move the surrounding tissue mass before escaping the body... all the while slowing the explosion down *WHICH IS A GOOD THING*.

I would list examples of explosives and suggested uses but not everyone needs to know that information.

After personally watching a human detonate 75 feet away from me and being bathed in large intestine from a different type of device... I would think they would have to come up with some serious stuff to actually cause serious damage.

Can this be used to harm people? Yes.

Can this be used to harm large amounts of people? Not unless they have very specific things to aide them in the explosive side of the house which directly has effects on the first things we talked about.

Should I be worried about this and start some sort of chain letter. It is good to be know about, but do not loose sleep over this type of fear tactic.


I hope this helps a little to explain the subject. My intent was to help you understand it a little better. After all, you pay me to do it, and I love it. Explosives can be a very handy tool for us on the battlefield, or also a very big annoyance for us when used like this. The threat is serious, it can be damaging, but it's all relevant to certain things. This type of tactic is yet another attempt to strike fear and worry in our minds. Sleep well tonight because brave men stand ready to do violence on your behalf so you can go about not having to worry about such things in our country.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

New meaning to "Shaped Charge"
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Midknyte
Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you have to understand that only a "small" amount of explosives can be placed inside a rectal cavity of a "container" or person.

One word. Goatse.

(Do not google that at work or in mixed company. You have been warned)
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Bjbauer
Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Obviously, it blew the shit out of him.
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Whatever
Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OMG TMI!

I can't believe they have that photo on Wikipedia!
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Dbird29
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Couldn't they go to the lavatory and remove the explosive and redeploy for maximum effectiveness?
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does packing a bomb make you gay?
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Geforce
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dbird, the possibility you mentioned would be what I would be concerned about. Especially when 30,000 feet above the ground, in a confined, pressurized space.
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Whatever
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

a confined, pressurized space

Perfect description for the arse as well.

(NOT PC I KNOW)... I always knew the Arabs were gay... look at the dresses they wear and how they kiss and hold hands...

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Sifo
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I thought maybe since the root of the word was GOAT that it would be livestock based. In anycase, I have no temptation to click that link to find out :-P
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