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Thepup
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Marhaba,i could care less who Anony is,someone just posted a picture and a link to a great story and Anony feels the need to put the bike down and pump the XBRR up,nothing wrong with pumping the XBRR up.
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Marhaba
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Kids, play nicely now, ye hear? I agree with JScott, a pissing contest between everybody gets nowhere, that's already been explored. Now in the words of my beloved mother and I quote. "If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all." end quote.
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Jscott
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
"Jscott,exactly,hmmm whats more impressive,a purpose built race bike from a factory that has 4 DNF's at Daytona or a handbuilt bike finishing 30th in an endurance race and going 757 laps.Any other board and we would know what the answer would be."

I don't think it's a fair comparison. I'm not going to say anything bad about the XBRR. Frankly I'm tickled pink that Buell is in the AMA series, come DNF's, top ten finishes or soon to be podiums. With FX opening up further in 2007 (probably largely due to Buell's involvement) its going to be the class to watch.

Equally impressive is a handbuilt bike finishing 30th in an FIM endurance race. If we had a nickle for everytime someone said "if they only built a vrod sportbike". These guys should get all those nickles, because they've done it while the rest of us have talked about it for five years.

(Message edited by JScott on August 16, 2006)
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Firemanjim
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Yeah,but it sure looks cool as hell,doesn't it!!!!!
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Thepup
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Jscott,I don't want to put down the XBRR neither,but most try to use it as some superior benchmark,and it's not there yet.
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Jscott
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
If you build it they will come...





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Jon
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 01:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Pup,

Why wouldn't you be able to fire back?

Pissing contest? Gee that's never happened here! ;)
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Buelltroll
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)















Sure the hell is perdy.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Is that the fuel tank up under the seat?
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José_quiñones
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Yes
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José_quiñones
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
I was not going to comment, but the attitude from the mouse is annoying.

The next FIM 24 hr endurance race is at Bol d'Or in France on September 16 & 17

Hey Anonymouse, put your money where your mouth is, get an XBRR out there to race.

Europe is a very important market for Buell, what better way to showcase the 'highly modified XB12' RR version than to race it in an FIM Endurance race?

If you can't get one out there in time, there's always Daytona.

I will gladly donate money to get the German VR bike to Daytona for the October 21 Moto-St 8 Hour Endurance Race or next March to race against an XBRR in the MotoST race or one of the CCS or AHRMA classes.


(Message edited by José_quiñones on August 16, 2006)
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
The bike spent time in the pits because of a lighting issue only, which is deeply impressive for 750+ laps : )

I agree with Jose. get an XBRR out there and beat it before you start to knock this bike as uncompetitive.
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Tom_b
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Regardless of who anonymous or how they feel about the vrod sport bike, it looks way cool and would be an awesome street bike. It is about time someone put a vrod motor in a sport chassis just to shut up the naysayers.
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Elvis
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Cool bike, and it's certainly not "impossible" to put a V-Rod motor in a bike like this (can anyone find a post by anyone - anonymous or not - who has said it couldn't be done?)

Some people even consider the Hayabusa or ZX-14 "Sport-Bikes", but I prefer something lighter and more agile.

I hope if/when Buell ever develops a new engine, it's closer to a KTM than a VRSC.
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Buellzebub
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
completing a 24 hour race is good!
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CJXB
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
I like how it looks, and I applaud anyone/group who tries something new/different !! You can tell me something will or won't work, but I'd rather find out for myself !!

And actions do speak louder than words, it's funny when folks say this/that bike can outdo/beat that bike.

It means nothing until someone gets out there on that bike and consistently kicks butt, then you don't have to talk anymore, everyone else will be doing it instead !!
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Jandj_davis
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Wow, that was so freaking perfect I can't even believe it. Finally, some-one stuck that sweet lump in a sportbike. Just one problwem for Buell going ahead with this: they didn't use the XB chassis. I'll bet this is where the V-Rod motor fails for Erik. With a chassis like that, why settle for less than an optimum motor configuration?
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Eboos
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
It's a chopper.
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Yeah, but its one cool chopper!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
IIRC people have said that the vrod motor is unsuitable for a Buell, not impossible to use in a sport bike.

I take the claim something is impossible as a challenge myself. (kind of like me riding again)

I am VERY impressed with the german effort.

However there are very different challenges involved with building a race bike for production than a one-off bike.

On the one-off the parts can be custom fit without concern for ease of duplication or inter-changability. Those factors make the
challenge of building the bike much greater, and more expensive.

That takes nothing away from what the German team has achieved! The 2 bikes are just built to meet different design parameters.

I like both bikes, I just do not see the v-rod powered bike being a viable bike on a production level or for production based
series. It would not be legal for AMA or CCS racing without getting a waiver. Both series are set up for production bikes
except in classes where the rules specifically state otherwise.
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Jayvee
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Seems like I seen a LOT of very interesting custom made stuff out Germany, both H-D and non-H-D. My former bike was an XV920R and there's a site run by a German that shows tons of amazingly customized bikes, most all from Germany. See: http://tr1.de

Didn't Porshe help design the VROD? Was that in Germany?
Or was that the VR1000 engine...?

(Message edited by jayvee on August 16, 2006)
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Jscott
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Harley consulted Porche on the VR1000, Vrod, and the Nova project...

http://www.bikerenews.com/AntiqueBikes/CodeNameNova.htm

I think you can see the family resemblance.
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Eboos
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Awesome article.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Too bad you are wrong all the time, little Poop. Now go get your diaper changed and your wittle nose wiped.

If you don't have the balls to put your name by the insult you should shut the •••• up annony.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Looks like a nice project, might even go to the Bol myself & have a look at it run.

Oh & while I'm posting, personal insults as posted by anon aren't worth getting wound up about. Anyone who has to hide to throw their mud isn't worth it.
I'm only surprised the guardians of propriety haven't pulled the post & or passed some sort of censure on the poster, as has often been the case in the past with those who have had the guts to post openly.

just my € worth.
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Jscott
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
More picture's of the "RaceRod".

http://insider.speedtv.com/viewtopic.php?t=130109
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Trust me, anony has the "balls", just not the ability to post other than anonymously. Please leave the custodial commentary to the custodians.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 06:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
OK, I'll trust you, it just seemed a little out of character to me.
I expected to see the same standards applied to anon posters as the rest of us is all.
I'm not trying to get at anybody, I have no desire to be a custodian, but I appreciate it has to be done, & I tip my cap to those who take the time & trouble to do so.
That said, if I didn't say honestly what I think (within the realms of politeness) I'd be a hypocrite.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Excellent. Thank you mon amis.
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Jimidan
Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Elvis says:

"Cool bike, and it's certainly not "impossible" to put a V-Rod motor in a bike like this (can anyone find a post by anyone - anonymous or not - who has said it couldn't be done?)

Some people even consider the Hayabusa or ZX-14 "Sport-Bikes", but I prefer something lighter and more agile.

I hope if/when Buell ever develops a new engine, it's closer to a KTM than a VRSC."

My too King, but this bike is cool looking although it looks long like a Busa. I would like to see the endurance race between it and the XBRR, as suggested by Jose. That would be worth going to.

jimidan
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
After the first five laps it would be interesting only in tallying how many times the XBRR would lap the cruiser-sport racer. Worth going to? Not if you are looking for close competition. IMNSHO. : )
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Firemanjim
Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Blake-mon amis is singular--you were looking to say mes amis,plural friends.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
If I make it to the Bol, I'll let you know what happens.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
FMJ,

Non, je dit a Mr. Grumpy seulement.

: )
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