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Tigerbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does anyone have or know someone with a Craft helmet. I like the RX-6 but the feedback on the web is limited. There are no dealers close to me so fit is a question although most will exchange if the size is not right.
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do yourself a favour and buy the real thing. As good as a Craft maybe it is not in the same league as the Simpson it copies.

Why wear an imitation? Would you wear a fake Rolex?

Rocket
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New12r
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket, you sure know a lot about everything!

I own a craft helmet, the sizes run small, I wear a medium shoei and a small craft. Fun for riding local, not good for track days(drags at high speed), kind of noisy, the fit takes a ride or two to get used to tho.

(Message edited by new12r on November 28, 2006)
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used to have a Simpson Model 32 helmet. I bought it 'cause of it's funky look (Darth Vader) but it sure was NOISY! It was eventually stolen by someone who cut the neck strap to take it off my bike when I had it parked at a marina.
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Yohinan
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So just so I can understand what is with getting away from the big name bike helmets like Arai and Shoei? Simpson is more for cars as far as I know and I have never even heard of Craft? School the NEWB!!!
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Edstevens
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yohinan

Tons of good information at http://www.webbikeworld.com/ for all things about motorcycling.
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No_rice
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

completely different look than the same old same old most manufacturers have still
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Simpson have for sometime made a motorcycle specific helmet.

Some Craft are Simpson copies. Other than wanting their specific carbon fiber model I don't see any point in buying a Craft over a Simpson, other than wanting to save a few quid.

Simpson are in the motorsport safety business. Craft make safety helmets. How much of their business is fashion based is unknown to me but Simpsons record, despite their own curious fashion statements, speaks volumes about them.

Sorry I'm a bit of a Simpson fan. I own three!

Troy the Oracle
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New12r
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yohinan, here is a link to a pic of mine.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=43&post=638886#POST638886
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...............which is a Simpson Bandit copy after all. And not as good as a Bandit either - which was my original point.

Would you wear a fake Rolex if your life depended on it?

Rocket
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

watches have come a long way.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if both the real Rolex and fake Rolex are COSC certified chronometers, what does it matter? If both helmets meet the TUV/Euro safety requirements, why not buy what you want?

I bought an Arai because it fit my head. If a shoei had fit it better, I would have bought it (even though it's the lower cost of the two).

Preferences are noted.

If ALL the same requirements are met, the rest is a matter of taste.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wear a fake timex, but that's the world I live in.

Your reality may vary.
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brian it tells good time to doesn't it ?? It got you to Wisconsin in time last year.
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Davidh72z
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've had Shoei's and Arai's for most of my 25+ years riding and the Arai's had fit the best and were the quietest for me. HOWEVER, the cost of the Arai's that I like prohibit me from getting them (I know I know you can't put a price on a human life) but when I can find an HJC AC12 Carbon that is one of the lightest, great graphics for my taste( which you may or may not like) for less than half of the Arai with the same Snell/DOT rating? hmmmm. Not a hard decision in my book. Plus a bonus is it fits my noggen real well although just a tick noisier than the Arai. Here are a couple of photos:
HJC Helmet

HJC Helmet
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just making sure my reality check didn't bounce ;)

But yeah Dana that fake timex (couldn't afford the fake rolex, that's out of my league)
keeps me on schedule...even for me, and I'm chronically early according to my friends.
(If I'm not 1/4 to 1/2 hour early something has gone very very wrong along the way.)

Ask Tim (No_Rice) I think I rolled into Ames 2 hours ahead of schedule on the way to homecoming. : )
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 04:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just don't see the point in having a copy. I'd rather have the real thing.

In the case of a fake Rolex, or any watch pricey enough worth faking, they are fakes not replicas. See the difference?

Would you settle for a Buell copy?

Rocket
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Tigerbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is it a Bandit knockoff? Yeah. But, it is rated very well with the ECE and DOT so I don't think it is fair to say you are compromising your life to save $200. Hey, I like the Bandit too but $200 is nothing to laugh at.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In the case of a fake Rolex, or any watch pricey enough worth faking, they are fakes not replicas. See the difference?

You example is inaccurate.

Fakes = Replicas

If you copy the styling, but the copy does everything the original does but is cheaper, you have a similarly styled helmet that would do the job.

I applaud your brand loyalty, but your fervor might be more appreciated in the GS Spot on ADVRider.com.

They are much more inclined to claim that there is ONLY one original, and that everything else is inferior. ;)
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Yohinan
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cant seem to find this anywhere. It just mentions European and Australian roots however can someone that actually owns one of these helmets look at the tag inside the helmet or the box and tell me where these helmets are manufactured. Not where the parent company resides but the actual "Made in XXX" tag. Thx
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Eh, a helmet's a helmet, so long as the ratings are there. Rocketman's hangup on fancy brand names is quite entertaining though!
From 10 feet away, they all look the same. Who cares?


~SM
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm looking at one as we speak.





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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bads1, better be careful if you get that helmet. Some punk in a Civic may try to steal it and mount that spoiler on their car! Tokyo Drift, baby!

~SM
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I see a vision of custom paint on it.
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No_rice
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yep, that'd be the one i have. i was wearing it at homecoming.
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ft B,

Take a Shelby Cobra and build an exact replica, and that's what you have, a replica worth about a zillion dollars. Otherwise all the rest are fake snakes and can be had for many thousands less no matter how good they are.

It's an age old argument we'll never settle here.

Some people buy a Lexus. I'd take Merc every time.

If I buy cheap jeans for work they last about 3 months before the denim is weak enough to rip easily. Levi's and Wrangler cost more but they last a hell of a lot longer.

A fake Rolex is a piece of crap usually screwed together in China using a cheap Japanese movement. It would not save your life at more than a couple of atmospheres down.

The Craft is a German made helmet that has good reviews, but for the sake of $200, and I bet I could beat that by some margin, a helmet's IS NOT a helmet, so long as the ratings are there.

As for brand loyalty I'm proud of the fact I live a life that recognises and appreciates the true value of quality. After all, that's why I bought a Buell. The rest is history.

Rocket
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you will take a Merc over a Lexus I can already tell you are prepared for less reliable product and poor quality control in comparison.
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Yohinan
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Eh, a helmet's a helmet, so long as the ratings are there. Rocketman's hangup on fancy brand names is quite entertaining though!

I beg to differ. Just because a rating is there doesn't always mean what you think it does. I am sure you know there are ways around almost anything these days.

A fake Rolex is a piece of crap usually screwed together in China using a cheap Japanese movement. It would not save your life at more than a couple of atmospheres down.

That was my point exactly. I don't care what kind of ratings it has. If it says made in China I will pass on the purchase 100 percent of the time. I have to much experience with multiple industries dealing in China made parts to trust anything made there anymore. I refer back to Forest Gump in the statement "You never know what your gonna get." Could be great but more than likely it wont be.

The Craft is a German made helmet that has good reviews, but for the sake of $200, and I bet I could beat that by some margin, a helmet's IS NOT a helmet, so long as the ratings are there.

That clears it up for me. If it's made in Germany then I have no doubt about it's functionality as compared to any other reputable Helmet manufacturer. Isn't Germany where Facom tools are made? For those that don't know Facom would be the equivelant of SnapOn in the US.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yohinan whats on a Buell made in China??
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bad,
That is one, how can I say this,unattractive helmet!
To each their own.

Kandie just got a new SHARK helmet. It is a really nice helmet. Not cheap, but really nice.
I got to get my crappy KBC Buell helmet back from her though.
I think I'll get a SHARK next year.
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