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Djcrysler
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 12:27 am: |
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Hey there anybody out there ever race a V-Rod? If so on a XB9 or XB12? There's a guy here at work that owns a new Street rod and really thinks he'll blow my XB9Sx off the road. He'll have to proof it. Thanks DC. (Message edited by djcrysler on November 23, 2005) |
Bobbyhead
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 01:04 am: |
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LOL- he will if he can ride ! The street rod ain't no regular v-rod. So don't lose your Pink slip |
Redstar100
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 01:09 am: |
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In a drag the V and street rod will nail a 9 or 12, in the corners the buell will do better by far. |
Peanut_man
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 01:31 am: |
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U mean to say the vrod can do corner? wow. LOL, but yeah, obviously the rod got quite a bit more output, me think. |
Djcrysler
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 02:07 am: |
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Redstar100, what are your basing your information on? The Street-Rod is carrying an extra 220lbs, and the only main difference in the Street-Rod and the V-Rod is the exhaust. |
Vito
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 02:27 am: |
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Djcrysler: The Street Rod and V-Rod are much different. The Street Rod sits higher, has mid mounted pegs, the exhaust sits higher, the front end has inverted forks, and I believe the rear suspension is much different, too. Don't get me wrong, I love my XB12S, but if money were no object, I'd have a Street Rod as bike #4 (#1 is a Wide Glide, #2 is the XB, and my next one will probably be an Electra Glide). The Vrod and derivatives are great machines, but they are different from the Buells. To me the Buells are stripped of anything that is not necessary, it grunts, it begs to be pushed to the limit, it is easy to flick through the corners, it sounds nice, and it looks really cool-that and it is a WHOLE LOTTA FUN. My impression of the VRods are they are more refined and smoother, but they still go. While they do not handle low speed parking lot manuevers very well, when I have ridden with friends on Ducs, Buells, Suzukis, Yamahas, I am able to keep up as well as outrun a few, it just takes a little more work to do. BUT, I still would take my Buell any day of the week! CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME THE WINNING LOTTERY NUMBERS SO I CAN HAVE ONE OF EVERYTHING???? |
Norcalbuell
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 03:52 am: |
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I have raced a vrod....My buddy has a 03 vrod with a pipe and a power commander. My 04 xb12r with race kit VS. Vrod at a 20mph roll on up to about 110mph was a dead money tie, we never inched each other at all, weirdest thing it was like we were strapped to one of those dyno drags. I could hear him hitting his rev limiter a few times and i dont think i even redlined and i know i never hit mine...Off a dead stop he can nail me only because that pig is so heavy and my XB wanted to wheelie....he rides that thing like a sport bike...We tearup the northern cal backroads and get lots of looks. |
Redstar100
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 04:16 am: |
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Its easier to launch the Vrod and it has the same straight line speed as the XB so the vrod is gone while the xb is trying not to flip |
Mike748
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 04:34 am: |
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I wouldn't mind a StreetRod in the garage
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Black_sunshine
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 06:35 am: |
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I have raced a V-Rod on a dyno drag with my XB9(check profile). Me and several of the 3%ers put better numbers up in a 1/4 mile. HP and time. Some of these V-rods had some work as well. check out: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/37/157756.html?1131354052 Hell, I even beat my Dad on a '99 1550cc Screaming Eagle Road King by almost a full second. |
Gentleman_jon
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 06:38 am: |
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The V-Rod will accelerate faster than your nine in a straight line, but not by much. Once you get into the twisties, he will have his work cut out for him: spotting you over 200lb.s in weight, and having about 10º less lean angle, he will quickly disappear astern if you are doing it right:-). If not, it's time for some track days and lessons. Actually, track time and lessons are ALWAYS a good idea:-) |
Spatten1
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 07:17 am: |
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Be very careful. The V-Rod has all the blazing speed of an entry level Japanese 600, which will smoke your Buell. I've got an XB9 and love it at a road race track, but drag racing it would be a joke. |
Spatten1
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 07:20 am: |
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I guess I just don't get why people are concerned with acceleration and then buy any Harley product. They just don't make anything competitive in a straight line. However, the Buells are WAY FUN in turns or on the rear wheel. |
Hogs
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 07:43 am: |
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Posted by 99buellx1 on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 07:57 pm: Numbers from Motorcyclist: 1\4 mile XB12S - 11.38 @ 117.6 VRSCA - 11.37 @ 115.0 And who really cares about going in a Straight line>>????? Looks close to me,If ya can believe their runs..FWIW... Top-gear roll-on 60-80mph: XB12S - 3.85 VRSCA - 4.05 (Message edited by hogs on November 23, 2005) |
Glitch
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 07:52 am: |
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Remember gentlemen, it ain't the arrow, it's the indian. |
Spatten1
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 07:53 am: |
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What really surprises me is how little HP the V-Rod puts out. It's a clean slate liquid cooled modern engine, but is barely competitive with other engines 1/2 it's displacement. I know it's a V, but so are Ducs and Rotax's. I just wish an American company would build a real kick MC power plant. |
Aldaytona
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 09:11 am: |
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The V-Rod wasn't designed with "Ricky Racer" in mind. I wish a Japanese company could build a MC that would be around after about 20 years, in that respect who is barely competitive? |
Jandj_davis
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 09:22 am: |
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I would have to disagree with the claims that HD doesn't make anything that goes fast in a straight line. Has anyone read the reviews of the new HD Destroyer on www.motorcycle.com or www.motorcycle-usa.com? Sounds to me like that is some serious straight line performance, for something from HD. Josh Davis Cedar Rapids, IA P.S. I don't want to hear anyone claiming that "A cheap jap bike can beat it with very few mods." We are not talking about Japanese bikes here are we. |
Blublak
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 09:48 am: |
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Hey Josh.. Ok, not speaking of Japanese bikes.. I know two bikes right off the top of my head, an Italian and a German bike that will do some impressive numbers.. Let's see for only $32K you too can ride the pride of Ducati.. a 999R should put a serious hurtin' on something/someone.. after the sticker shock has worn off that is.. Then from the fine folks at BMW for closer to $16K or so there are the new K1200'S' and 'R' bikes.. Claiming what? 167hp for the 'S'? And I'll bet they don't weigh much beyond a V-Rod if that much. Now what was the tag line for the new K1200S? Oh yeah.. "0 - 60 in 2.8 Seconds ... Mommy! (sorry, just couldn't resist in unintentional invitation) |
Spatten1
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 09:55 am: |
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"We are not talking about Japanese bikes here are we" I'm into all bikes, American, Japanese, and European. The Busa and ZX12 are already nine second machines. Add a wheelie bar, just for equal footing, and they will go even faster, plus they are good street bikes. MOTORCYCLIST MAGAZINE [June 2000] Top Speeds ------------------------------------------ Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa 184.2 mph Kawasaki ZX-12R 183 mph [Elevation 2400 feet above sea level] Quarter Mile -------------------------------------------- Suzuki GSX1300R 9.86 sec @ ~ 140.3 mph Kawasaki ZX-12R 9.96 sec @ 142.3 mph And please don't bring up the "Buell" dragsters that have no Buell parts and some ridiclous displacement over 2 liters. |
Dago
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 09:56 am: |
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Amen, Spatten! And I'm not 100% sold that a v-rod will easily take an xb12. There's this kook around my neighborhood that rides one up and down 407 all freakin weekend long. Every now and then I'll catch him at a light. We've launched hard twice and I took him fairly easily both times. And this makes no sense to me considering the r&d that went into that water cooled engine. Then again, this guy really is a kook. |
Spatten1
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 10:00 am: |
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Dago, I can see beating the heavier bike off the line with your XB due to the weight advantage. There is some speed where the 'Rod should overtake you, aside from the kook factor. |
Dago
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 10:06 am: |
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Good point. We've never gone any longer than from the light to the next group of cars. |
Spatten1
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 11:01 am: |
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I think gearing and clutch will haved a huge effect off the line and at lower speeds too. I don't know how the two bikes compare. Stoplight to stoplight you might kick his but every time. |
Xring
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 11:03 am: |
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Very simple: The better rider wins in that contest. Glitch got it right. Good luck, Bill |
Spatten1
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 11:20 am: |
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X- that's true, but I'm one rider, and I can choose different weapons. A sharper knife cuts better than a dull one wielded by the same hand. |
Yeags30
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 08:00 pm: |
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i raced a v-rod several times at the drags with my xb-9sl.I have the d&D, race kit,...the vrod has a d&D exhaust and the computer has been tuned. I was only able to run a 13.6 at 104 mph....he ran a 12.4 at 108......i know i can do better...i'm just afraid to launch it...Next yr i'll be at a few test and tune nights and i'll report the results then. I'm sure a 12 won't have a problem |
M2nc
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 08:44 pm: |
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I've seen a stock XB9 versus a V-Rod and they were neck and neck to about 80mph when the V-Rod pulled a couple of bike lengths. Now that XB has the race kit and I think it can give that V-Rod a run all the way to top end. A V-Rod has one big advantage and that is its length. An XB will have a harder time launching because of the bike's shorter wheel base. Footnote: Though its been said, straight lining an XB? Why? |
No_rice
| Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 08:58 pm: |
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or shop v-rod took one of our guys nicely modified TLR1000's. it might have had something to do with the 75 horse shot of juice we were running on it to though lol |
Vr1203
| Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 01:29 am: |
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M2nc ....quote,A V-Rod has one big advantage and that is its length. An XB will have a harder time launching because of the bike's shorter wheel base.} I wonder if a any of our BWB's mathematicians/scientists could come up with an explanation. How much wheelbase is needed with so much power to produce so much acceleration without so much flipping over? |
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