| Author | Message | ||
     Bueller_bjorn |
All I would like for my 1125 would be that beautiful tail section, the old recycled firebolt tail just looks out of place IMO. I would also love those wheels if possible but mostly the tail section. | ||
| Davegess |
First, you want support, American Sport Bike is the place to go if your dealer is a putz. Second it is all that Erik Buell Racing can do to build 100 1190 AND design the next generation bike. ANY effort put into offering updates for sale would be counter productive and may well violate some sort of agreement with H-D, don't know this to be a fact just sayin'. If you want to buy a part from an Erik Buell Racing dealer and then modify it for you bike you will be free to do so. Might be a short while before you can so this but it will happen soon. | ||
| Clarkjw |
I've been asking for fairings for 6 months...and Buell-Parts / Pegasus have permission to make them already. What do I get after months of emails and calls? Pegasus said they only have 1 FAIRING TO RACE WITH and cant lend it Buell-parts.com / Gruner said "in May", now the don't answer emails Erik Buell Racing gave me a a very very polite no. Someone who can buy a 40k bike is not going to convert his 1125. That's not overlap. Someone on this board got the 1190 tail section to go drag racing. So, if you have some inside info, I'm will to pay up. Otherwise, I think you're making excessively optimistic assumptions about it coming to market soon. With that said, anyone with the 1190 fairings that wants to rent them to me please PM me. | ||
| Fast1075 |
Check out Puzzled's engine build thread in the drag racing section. THAT motor will be a gorilla when it is done and tuned..even without the nitrous. | ||
| Davegess |
Do you own an 1190 RS? I didn't think so. Than you really are not having a parts problem are you? Erik Buell Racing is simply NOT in the aftermarket business. If you can get them to do you a favor great but you really can't complain when they don't. | ||
| Ratbuell |
talk to a dealer (hd dealer - 'old' buell dealer), and see if any of the fairing kits are still available. check ebay. but please, don't bitch about a company of what are they up to now, 35 people? not supporting a bike they didn't even build nor are they pledged to support. they have enough work for 350 people right now and as wonderful as the elves are...they're not *actually* magical. incredibly helpful and amazing individuals, yes...but there are things they just cannot do right now, nor should we expect them to. its not a matter of overlap. it's hours in a day, divided by projects on a board, spread out among a small handful of very talented, dedicated individuals. let them focus. | ||
| Anonymous |
The Erik Buell Racing 1190RS fairing won't rationally fit on a Buell 1125, so why do people keep demanding some sort of magic to make it happen? The question has been answered many times, but somehow people get angry and think reality should be different. The 1190 fairing will not fit without thousands and thousands of dollars of other parts. The tail subframe will bolt on but the components in the 1125 tail won't fit in the space. The tailsection does not match up to the cosmetic airbox cover anyhow. Doesn't matter on a drag bike where everything is modified and not streetable, but these requests are that it work on the street. We did the numbers and an actual functional "cosmetic" kit would be nearly $20K. That's just bodywork and all the pieces to make it fit and function, not the motor, suspension, wheels, etc. BTW, it's 20 full time and about 5 part time at Erik Buell Racing doing the 1190RS (including not just an all new design, but sourcing and testing along with minor incidentals like government homologation and dealer development), all the Erik Buell Racing race parts for Buells, racing the 1190RS into the top ten in AMA, and developing the next Erik Buell Racing models. Oh, and answering these questions. Over and over and... | ||
| Ohsoslow |
its kinda funny the company that boasts about how we achieved "this" against the odds or did "that" when everyone said it couldn't be done. but now, assuming annoy is someone from ebr, is going on about how it cant practically be done...since when has Buell old and new been about practicality? | ||
| Anonymous |
OK, this has reached the point of absurdity. Really it has. | ||
| 46champ |
You know people they are still up against a production deadline on the 1190RS. c. Quantity and pricing requirements are as follows: i. The manufacturer must have produced a quantity of at least 18 units before applying for homologation. ii. The minimum quantity of 36 units must be produced by June 1st of the current competition season. iii. The minimum quantity of 72 units must be produced 15 days previous to the last race of the current competition season. I don't know where they are in the production cycle but they got to be running close it is 72 bikes by Aug 20. | ||
| Froggy |
Absurd indeed. | ||
| Ljm |
Wow! That is a HUGE task by 20 August! No wonder the elves are up late. I imagine in a few weeks they will need a vacation. | ||
| Mountainstorm |
I know this is the internet but when I read a post like the one by ohsoslow I just want to rage. Besides the arrogance, the ignorance and the basic rudeness there's something I can't quite put my finger on that makes me feel depressed...maybe it's the fact that people seem to have no class...no grace. It's all about what they want. If they can't get it well the next step is to pitch a fit like a damn child and insult their betters. That's right  Erik Buell and anyone else working there is better than you, judging from how you present yourself. And this is why IMO Anon only rarely visits here and every time probably regrets bothering. | ||
| Mrrickbo |
Holy moley this thread went out to left field over the fence and across the near by football field. That's where it got bad with the name calling and "it can or it can't" be done. Erik Buell Racing is busy trying to make their deadline and then they will hopefully get back to supplying us, H-D Buellers with parts we want but don't need. And if you want the 1190 power, performance, handling, and look, then, go be one of the hundred. Or..... Maybe, just maybe, be like some of us other Buellers and try your hand and skills in making your on parts that look cooler or make the bike perform better. Let remember why this forum is here. To share and help out people with the same bikes and issues that we have worked through. Anyways that is all! | ||
| Ohsoslow |
mountain, where in any of my post was i "pitching a fit"? i asked a simple question, maybe it was an arrogant question but it was an honest question. everyone is so on edge about ebr that i wonder how they can even think straight. it is just odd to me that if someone brings the fact up that they would like to have 1190rs parts on their 1125, its always an excuse of why it cant be done. just like a hub less wheel........ right? i want Erik Buell Racing to succeed and do great at it. i have bought several things from them that i didn't have to but i did for the soul reason of supporting them. mountain, you dont know me, to make a statement such as that says alot about your character. mrrickbo, i couldn't agree with you more. | ||
| D_adams |
NDA's absolutely SUCK. Really. If you only knew what was in store for us Buell owners later down the road. What's available now is out of the average guy's price range, but they gotta crawl a little first before they start running flat out. Sure, stuff doesn't happen overnight, but I invariably get a response from someone up there if I have a legitimate question, and sometimes not, I get a funny response back at least. Half of the one line conversations I get from Michael make me laugh out loud. To be under the pressure those guys are and to still have a sense of humor like they do is amazing. I probably would have shot someone by now. Yeah, it would have been a rubber pellet or nerf gun, but still, someone would have a bruise or knot from it. | ||
| Budgolf |
Hey guys, if you think it can be done, freaking do it then. Why wait on Erik to do it. Shut up and do it. Erik and those guys don't know what they're talking about anyway. Just do it. Shut up and do it. I'm with you, I think Erik should spend every last dime he has coming up with ways to make your 5,000 dollar bike just like his 40,000 dollar bike. And by God it shouldn't cost you much, if anything at all since he owes us his left nut after he shut Buell down and went on vacation. If I was Erik Buell I would tell everyone on a Buell (myself included) to cram it. | ||
| Smoke4ndmears |
how is this hard? just because there is a passing resemblance between the two machines does not mean the interchangeability is trivial. furthermore, what justification besides puerile, vain self interest does anyone have to ask the few people at Erik Buell Racing to put in the effort to 'affordably' retro-fit parts when they are already breaking their backs trying to keep the dream alive? | ||
| Davegess |
I do not understand why Erik Buell Racing does not just stop dealing with these petty problems like certifying their actual product and get on to the real business of designing aftermarket parts for our bikes? If you want to be a motorcycle manufacturer why waste scarce resources on a motorcycle when you could be designing special aftermarket pieces for some other guys bike? I mean really who needs a new motorcycle anyway? You guys complaining about this need to shut up and go ride. If you want 1190 style parts on your 1125 than go make them. Easy. | ||
| Jdugger |
Tail section: I know for sure using the 1190 tail section on an 1125r will require you to go to the race harness and a lithium battery. There's simply not space for the components of the stock wiring harness. Race harness: No headlights, turn indicators, tail lights, brake switch, clutch switch, and so on. No key switch. (use a simple spst power switch for the bike instead) No tip-over switch, and a few other things. The fuses and relays are consolidated into a single box, and there's not enough accessory circuits for anything other than a laptimer and telemetry recorder. It's BEYOND impractical for anything other than a race bike. Also, you will need to relocate the rectifier, and that means a fair bit of wiring changes for that bit. It's not a simple adaptation. I looked into it for my track bike, and my conclusion was it isn't worth it, and the weight savings did not justify the cost and trouble. | ||
| Clarkjw |
I don't know how this turned hostile. I don't want a kit. Just the parts. I can modify and mount myself. | ||
| Budgolf |
Sorry Clark, it's not directed at you, I think your ideas are awesome, you seem to be looking to provide the answers to your own questions, and I wish you the best of luck. My post was in response to a post critical of Erik Buell Racing. Beginning to become kind of a knee jerk reaction for me. Maybe I need to work on that. | ||
| Dannybuell |
From a HiPro parts sales standpoint it looks like Erik Buell Racing has no interest whatsoever. puzzled is doing a 1250, EB told puzzled which vendors to contact! http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/626675.html?1302618326 It seems the 1125 section has not seen the drag racing section where puzzled is doing 1250 magic on an 1125! I don't blame E-B-R for their change of strategy on parts marketing. | ||
| Budgolf |
Exactly Danny. I'm anxious to see how Mike's project works out. | ||
| Fast1075 |
I met and talked with Mike about the project while I was at Daytona for the breakfast where Erik Buell spoke. Mike strikes me as an intelligent person with the capability to complete the project. | ||
| Kinder |
rant on as this one got away from me... The tail on the 1190RS has some storage. 1) You can see the 'bin' in all the pics. 2) It's ON A STREET BIKE! Am I missing something here? Yes the batt prob was relocated as was the rear brake fluid reservoir (as seen in pics.) In the end it is on a street bike and thus has room the for wiring/ harness required for the street. Now EeBbRr has prob shoved some of that inbetween the frame tank as it is wider than our 1125's so prob has some room but still... Street bike. Now as for those who want one and are citing others that seem to have gotten one... maybe those that have have some sort of sponsorship with EeBbrr? Sponsorship comes in varying levels. From as small as heres some free parts to a true budget. One of the guys I was helping train for MMA stuff had a local company sponsor him and got free t-shirts. That was it! Or maybe they know the company that help EeBbRr build/ design it and got a throw away/cast off. Or maybe they are just good friends with some of the staff there. Or maybe they are sleeping with some of the staff there.  Either way all we can do is ask if they can help us and if they can great. If not then move on. I had issues trying to get parts not listed on their site but my issue was not about what they could do but about the lack of contact. Had they told me they couldn't help then I would have had to find a new source. (I got lucky though and they mad my day maybe season! ) In the end we can build up a 1190/1125 hybrid. It would be costly but can be done. And at the cost to do it (bike+parts)for a few G more you can prob just buy the real deal. This is part of the message Annoy is saying. They are tired of hearing us complain about how they won't share 1190's parts with us. And I can see a big part of that being if they did and it wasn't a bolt on addition then they would be expected to help us figure out how to make it work. I mean can you imagine the calls? "Hi, I just got an 1190 tail section from you and I know you said it would not fit my 1125R without some custom fabrication but it really doesn't fit. How do I make it fit?" I know some of us wouldn't be making those calls but MANY would. How can they sort those people out? And disclaimers don't work for shyte as we all know. Then consider the cost... these are not high production number parts. Limited production=expesnsive. I mean custom pistons alone are prob several hun to $1000. Then you need new rods, bearings, rings all assuming you are using the same crank. And thats if you can provide them with all the accurate measurements as they are no returns for custom stuff. Some places require molds be made of the chamber for truly custom stuff and those places cost/charge more! As for the tail section I would sooner use an existing tail section, some metal rods and a tig welder and have at it. Once you have the design the way you want then build one with heavier rods. It is just a basic lattice design afterall. A homemade mold can be carved out of foam and there's your seat pan. A hunk of plastic, foam and covering gives you a seat. Another mold or plastic weld can build you a seat bin for wiring/ batt. Anything can be done. It takes time, talent and $$. | ||
| Reepicheep |
So Ohslow... are you trying to argue that Erik Buell Racing should do any and every conceivable impractical task, or be branded a failure? Or are you trying to argue that if Erik Buell Racing doesn't do something *you* want them to do, that they have failed? Or are you arguing that Erik Buell Racing should stop working on the current production bike needed for AMA Superbike homologation in order to make a fairing kit that can retrofit onto an out of production motorcycle? Or should Erik Buell Racing stop working on future affordable street bikes in order to produce the fairing kit you are looking for? I'm sure you have a point here, and that this is just a communication problem. But whatever your original goal was, it has been lost in translation. You are coming off as either epically ignorant, or as doing a bunch of petty self absorbed whining... and I'm sure those are inaccurate perceptions. | ||
| Mountainstorm |
Nah Reep it's nothing like that...it's all about my lack of character. I apologize. Budgolf nailed it. Erik should stop doing anything except catering to the whims of Buell owners. Especially Tube Frame Buells. Free shipping. Stock every possible part despite the overhead. 24 people with headsets waiting to take all the orders for 1190 look-a-like kits. It's sad how far off the mark they are with this silly "new bike" obsession. | ||
| Froggy |
Only if those 24 phone reps are based in the US, I don't want to deal with no stinkin job stealin feriners! | ||
| Budgolf |
Haha for real. All American for me, just like my Harley! |
