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Marcodesade
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone using DDM Tuning HIDs on an 1125R? I'm curious as to how involved the installation is. Specifically, does it just connect right up to the stock wiring, or is splicing required? If I remember correctly, hooking it up to the CR required some surgery, but what about the R?

Has anyone done a how-to on this one?
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Pmjolly
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are several threads on this, but I found that they sent different lamps to different people. Some were actually plug and play. Mine were cut and splice.
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Marcodesade
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, that's what I want to avoid, not because I can't splice, but because I'd prefer to maintain the stock configuration.

Anyone got tips on how I could ensure I get the right setup?
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D_adams
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine was pretty straightforward.

Polarity was reversed on mine and the plug is keyed.



I had a hacksaw blade handy , took all of 15 seconds to get what I needed.



Big difference in light, but if I were to do it again, I'd go with 4500k bulbs instead of 5000k.



They're definitely brighter by far over the stock units, even going with 35 watts. Yes, I had the high beam on and you can barely even see it.


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Bigevildoer
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The polarity on mine was reversed as well.
Instead of cutting into the clip like D_Adams did, I simply use a pair of side cut wire clippers, clipped off the "key" guide and they clicked together no probs.

Just put in a second pair for the high beams.. haven't had a real chance to check them out yet, as the snow is still melting here...
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

due to the plastic reflectors and lenses do not get the 55w kit. the 35w kit i have on low beam cooked the lens and boiled the aluminum or whatever it is that is the reflective coating off of the reflector.... even @ 35w there is a tremendous amount of heat being released by H.I.D. bulbs not jsut the DDM ones. i got mine from star rotors in 09 and still going strong
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Some were actually plug and play. Mine were cut and splice.




Are you 100% sure they are DDM? Did you buy them from DDMtuning.com?
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd go with 4500k bulbs instead of 5000k.

Why?

I have had not so good experience with the 55W DDMs and much better success with the 35W DDMs. In short, I have gone thru two sets of 55W and the last one has a ballast failure about 1 in 10 times (it will eventually fire up after toggling on/off a few times.)

The 35W works fabulous.}
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Freight_dog
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got the DDM 35W lights for my R. I had the reversed polarity problem too and used the exact same solution as Bigevildoer. I used an X-acto knife to shave the key off. My only concern was there was now no piece for it to "click" securely to.

I had them on for about a month with no issue except they did seem to draw a little more power than the stock lights. When my stator died last summer, I restored the stock lights and found my battery lasting just a little longer than it did with the HID's . I have not put the HID's back on yet.

I am looking for a set of "blue" halogen lamps to use for my high beams to match the color of the HID's. I haven't been able to find any in my local auto parts stores yet.
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D_adams
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 06:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fresnobuell -- Just personal preference really. The 5k color is just a little too white/blue for me, I want a little less of it. The 4500 ones are closer to the normal spectrum of color that I'm used to. They are plenty bright enough as is, I just want a different color range.
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Ponti1
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 06:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went with the 600k 35W set from DDM. Completely plug and play, no cutting or tweaking.

Absolutely 100% happy with them. I am about to do my new Yamaha Grizzly as well for additional light on the trail.

I only did the low beams, but have not found any need to use high beam so far. I can now ride comfortably at night with a tinted visor if I happen to be out after dark and not have my clear shield with me.
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Swoop
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I JUST INSTALLED THE 8000K 35w THEY ARE NICE, NOT AS BLUE AS I THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE. ALL I HAD TO DO AS FAR AS THE INSTALL WAS REVERSE THE BLACK AND RED WIRES IN THE CONNECTOR. While i was doing the install i saw this harness..... Does anyone know what its for???? sory bout the caps. here are some pics.





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Beugs
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm assuming you are pointing at the gray connector. That is the accessory power outlet plug. It can be used for heated grips and other accessories.

I also reversed the black and red wires when I installed mine. I wanted it to look original yet, no grinding or cutting for me!
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Marcodesade
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone else had the issue that Boogiman had --- "boiling" off the reflector with the 35W system? On the DDM website it warns against using 55W in too small an enclosure, but it says nothing about the 35-watters.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The stock bulbs are just as likely to melt the reflectors.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I haven't inspected Loretta's lately, but I've had 35w HID lo-beams for almost 3 years now.
No problems, just LOTS more light.

Z
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Father_of_an_era
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought the HIDs used less power. Is that wrong? Do they actually use more power?
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

35 Watts is 35 Watts (assuming both are at the same voltage). 35 Watts would be less power used than 55 Watt stock CR bulbs, assuming of course that they aren't lying about the rating. I haven't bothered to hook up a multimeter to my lights, as I never had a reason too. By my calculations, a 55w halogen bulb should be drawing 3.9 Amps @ 14v, so a 35w HID should be about 2.5 amps.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guess mine were defective. They were warrantied in any case.
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Gofastalot99
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aren't the 35W HID's "comparable" to 35W halogens? I thought the initial amperage was close to 6 but then settled down to about 4 once the bulb was up to temp.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

power consumption yes light output no
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Pmjolly
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2011 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You cannot figure the current by the bulb's rating. You must use the ballast's ratings. However, it's still pretty close. I have put a meter on my DDM 35 watt lights. The ballasts draw right at 6 amps each when they first turn on. They come down to close to 3 amps when they warm up. It only takes a few seconds to come down in amps. If you do both high and low beams, you will blow the fuse if you turn on the ignition with high beams on. All four ballasts warming up at the same time draw 24 amps. If you already have the lows warmed up, then turn on the highs, the fuse will be OK. This is all on an '08 R with DDM Tuning 35 watt HID lamps on low and high beams.
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Freight_dog
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2011 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's a lot of ballast. I find that to be the only drawback. The ballasts are still pretty big but the extra visibility is more than worth it.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2011 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ew, this thread makes me want to pull the 35W ballasts out of the truck and put them on the bike where they were meant to go in the first place.
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Ohsoslow
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

question for those of you that found the polarity was reversed on the plugs. why didnt you just re pin the connector?
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Swoop
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 03:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that's what I did..
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Beugs
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

me too
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Dennis_c
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My polarity was ok from DDM just got them this week I can see where iam going now
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Marcodesade
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, last question (I think): What bulb type?
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Ohsoslow
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

installed mine yesterday on the cr, took about 30 mins, everything was plug and play. the bright lights are pretty much worthless now.
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