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Stevenchase
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Guys,
Long story short, I had to lay my bike down on the freeway this morning. Kinda banged up, but overall okay.

So, the bike skidded on the right side. A nick in the gas tank, cracked head off of braking pedal, a scraped up right foot peg, and scraped up throttle grip. The carb/dan's custom exhaust intake, tires, belt, wheels all look perfect in condition, dan's superboot held firm.

Now, onto the issue...it wont start! Battery is charged and the bike is cranking over like a champ, but when taking out the spark plug (brand spanking new). No spark is coming out when cranked. I also took off the timing cover and checked the little LED light to see if it was blinking in time with the engine cranking and that think will occasionally blink, but not really at all.

Just curious as to what you guys think the prob could be. I have another bike available to take parts off as needed but really need a solid place to begin.

Does the angle bank sensor reset once the bike is upright?!

I have already repalced the foot brake, pegs, handlebar grip and everything that was damaged. Show me the light!
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sometimes the BAS needs a tap to reset, or can be bypassed by connecting the wires together, also check the Das Boot for a rip since it went down on the carb side.
EZ
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Stevenchase
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks EZ, will give it a couple taps, ensure boot is tight. I have all night (hawaii time) and school i have to be at tomorrow. If those two fail, what should I start considering after that? Completely replacing BAS?

Again,
Thank you soo very much for the response!
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A wire goes in and a wire goes out - cut and twist together and tape up - BAS is now bypassed. Still cranks but won't start - replace boot - is probably cracked from the fall. Try tapping carb side first as well - float could be stuck all the way down - has happened from a drop before.
EZ
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Stevenchase
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks!!!!!!
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Stevenchase
Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, with the BAS, I connected the yellow/green wire together and tried it both plugged/unplugged. Still no spark. Any thoughts? Also double checked the boot and float bowl. Getting a code that says PPU 108181, havent been able to find out what that means while reasearching.

Thanks for the help.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Doesn't the BAS have 3 wires? While I can't check it right now, I remember 3 and the correct wires must be connected together.


(The BAS only resets if the ignition is turned off-it will not reset without cutting the power. That's an FYI. Because I'm sure you've turned off the ignition since the drop)
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Stevenchase
Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, it looks like there is a yellow, green, and white wire. I have been turning off and on the ignition.

Please sir, shower me with knowledge!

Should i connect all 3 together? And throw out the connecter piece? Then turn off, turn on and then spark?!
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Stevenchase
Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also, havent seen any spark yet.
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Stevenchase
Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Btw, I connected the yellow and green and left the white wire in the connecter.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, I don't have access to a schematic right now.
If you have a spare BAS, install that. The easiest way to tell which wires to jump are to pull the BAS off and turn it over and see which wire it cuts power to. That's the wire that feeds the ignition.
I would've pulled the BAS off to start and see what happens. The BAS has a roller bearing in it that just rolls in a v shaped cavity. Tip the bike over and it rolls out of the V. It also has a circuit board in there that won't restore power to the ignition until you've turned the power off and back on. I do fear that by connecting the wrong wires you may have fried it.
If it won't start after a drop, then it is more than likely a bad or stuck BAS, if the ignition now has no power.
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Stevenchase
Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you everybody for your help! The bike is fixed and runs like a dream again. It ended up being a wire that was severed inside the cam/ignition module. It fell on the right side and while the encased wires all looked intact, when I took out the sensor (the one with the blinking led). And cutt off the protective sheath around the wires, I found 2 that had been severed by the fall. I simply swapped the part from my parts bike and it started perfectly!

Again, thank you all so much for your help. I learned quite a bit about how this bike's electrical system functions just from checking everything!!
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