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Joel
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looking for tire recommendations. Good grip and preferably non-evaporating tread.

Thanks
Joel
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pirelli Diablo in the over-sized is a great choice - no swing arm mods needed.
EZ
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Faseljd
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you have to pound in the shock mount with the Pirelli Diablo Scooters (140/70)?
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No!
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Joel
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 12:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's what I found on motorcycle-superstore.com:
Pirelli - Diablo Performance Rear
Scooter Tire Size - 140/70P-16 SKU#149711
And
Pirelli - Diablo Performance Front
Scooter Tire Size - 110/70P-16 SKU#258596
These correct?
They also have the Pirelli - ST 66 Touring Scooter Tires.
What are your thoughts on those?
I don't mind bashing the mount if needed.

Joel
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get the Diablo's. If all you're using the bike for is highway commuting then perhaps the ST66's.But.....

IMHO get the stickiest tire you can for the front. 9000 miles is plenty enough mileage from the stickiest Pirelli (MT75 or Diablo). Why risk handling for extra mileage?

FWIW: The Diablo front is a smaller tire than stock or the MT75. You may or may not appreciate the extra 'twitchyness' of the smaller tire. If its all highway, I'd use the MT75 (again my opinion).
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

See also:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/201 64/92908.html?1266557539
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Faseljd
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sweet. I really didn't want to take a hammer to my bike.
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually I would like to know where you think the 110/70 is smaller than the 100/80?
EZ
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Indybuell
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I Love my MT75's.
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I appreciate the mileage and handling of the Diablos!
EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The front Diablo scooter 110/70 is not as tall and only 100mm wide. The MT75 is 104mm wide. It may result in a twitchier ride with better 'turn in'. The stock sized Diablo front may be taller. "
The Diablo 110/70 Front is about 1/2" less in diameter than the MT75 (and I have to assume that would be about the same for any stock size tire). Put the 2 tires side by side and its very easy to see that 110/70 is 'smaller'.
Again, I dont see anything wrong with the Diablo's. People should just be informed about what they are getting and what they should expect and them make an informed decision.
I dont have any information on the 100/80 Diablo.

So I dontthink the Diablo 110/70 is smaller than the stock sized MT75-I know it is!
I've written up all I know about the Diablo in the Pirelli tires section of the knowledge vault. I'll post pictures when I have the time and access to both sets of tires mounted, but off the bike.
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I measured 103 on my front Diablo - sure your calipers were'nt off?
EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I measured both the Diablo and MT75 at the same time, so the relative difference was 4mm no matter how far the caliper was off..........and it looks smaller : )
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Weird - I wouldn't give up the handling advantage for the world, and since until you swap out ignitions, the top end will be relatively the same, just how fast you get there - the advantages to me outweigh the disadvantages, and much better mileage to the tire set, especially compared to the MT75. The handling on the Blast really comes into its own with those tires. Of course I have to try the Metzler, and the Shinko, and the 66 as well. This tire set though really does set a higher standard, and that is enjoyable.
EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 01:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not saying one tire is better than the other. I'm just saying the handling is different and that should be taken into consideration when choosing a tire for a particular need or want. Many may not even notice the difference, but those that will should know.
I doubt I'll ever run anything else but a Pirelli on the front anyway, Diablo or MT75.

My write up is in the Pirelli tire section and I believe it to be fair and unbiased.
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

True, but you never had them together as new, running the rear before you had the front, kind of misses as a package. - If I'm wrong then you need to add a mention of how they felt together as new versus a new set of MT75's. Your opinion is always valued.
EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

True, but you never had them together as new, running the rear before you had the front, kind of misses as a package. I think I covered that. Rear tire wear was minimal at testing and I dont see how it could have affected the outcome. Less wear would have made them even more twitchy and the ride was the same on the rear, new or with some wear. Leaned over didnt make any difference as the sides werent worn.

I dont see where the discrepancy is? Where do you disagree with what I've written? They're both good tires, but different.
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No disagreement just trying to verify facts - thank you for that. Did a really serious back road with the suspension done up and adjusted emulators - the bike felt planted no matter what I did - between the tires and the rest of the suspension dialed in - the bike has no problem now handling anything to the best of its ability - heck I haven't had to add air in weeks - thanks to the emulators keeping everything balanced. Maybe your suspension is to harshly set up? Making the differences in the tires less? Don't mean nothing by that, just a thought - its just that my commuter really handles now, and has only gotten deeper and easier in transitions - and that is fun!
EZ




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