| Author | Message | ||
     Glitch |
I'm on it! I've got a couple of designs going now. Things are really c.r.a.z.y right now, but I am working on this for y'all. I'll post something up for y'all to see either tonight, or at least by Thursday. | ||
| Ezblast |
Gentlemen - the Blastards' insignia -  EZ | ||
| Reuel |
The gray part can be transparent for those whose Blasts are not black. | ||
| Ezblast |
Yes - that would be really cool as a sticker - I'm sure Glitch can get it done, however he will be taking some time off for the holidays and family - but I'm sure the quotes and rates will show up soon enough - it tis the holidays - time to raise glass with friends and family, etc. - always a personally busy time of year for folks - including business. EZ | ||
| Johnnymac |
I like that graphic, EZ! The only change I would make to it is below. In your original the fist looks like it's floating in front of the 'hammer' instead of holding it. Once I noticed it...bugs the crap out of me! I made one simple change to it and it's now holding the hammer like it should be. I want in on the patch and sticker idea but would insist on this slight modification. Feel free to shoot down my edit, everyone, if you don't agree with me.    | ||
| Reuel |
I noticed that, too. Good fix! | ||
| Ezblast |
The Lettering/Font is Norse - so that stays with a special request to make the T a tad more Tish - lol - good eye on the other as well - I'll send it to glitch. EZ (Message edited by ezblast on December 22, 2008) | ||
| Crackhead |
are you able to tip the piston and conecting rod assembly? If we could slightly see the top of the piston, it would make the shape appear round insted of flat. How about making the P3 look like the big end of the connecting rod? | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Pirelli Scooter Diablo's update 110/70x16front-140/70x16rear: My initial impressions, to reiterate what I originally stated about the rear, the ride quality suffers. I think mostly because its a bigger, heavier tire. Its minimal at best though. It still has the same quality smooth ride you can expect from a Pirelli, just a little harsher than the MT75 rear. The front: As expected because of the smaller size the turn in is quicker. The Blast also likes to 'fall over' into a turn, it really wants to get leaned over and is very comfortable there. I noticed an immediate increase in corner speed. What I didnt expect was a softer ride in the front. I purposely hit every crack and groove, even at 80+ mph, they were non existent. I couldnt even tell they were there. You can when stopped feel the softness in the tire if you turn the handlebars. I think this is probably because there is less sidewall, more tread and its squished more into a V shape because of its slight oversize. I checked the load rating and they were within 21lbs of each other with the scooter tire having a heavier load rating. I dont know how all the translates into high speed or very aggressive (read track) riding. I dont know if the front will overflex leading to instability or overheat. I also dont know what the recommended tire pressure should be. I just set them at my usual 30/30. I know what hard race track riding looks like on a tire and I rarely see it on any street going Blasts I've come across (certainly not from me). I still may pull them off the bike and save them for a track day, just to see how they feel. Not sure I can find (or afford) anybody to push them to their limits racing though (within the speed rating of course). My overall impression: I doubt that the average street rider would be disappointed with this tire. Certainly miles better than the Dunlops. It should be noted that the rear tire mounted is only 7mm wider than the Pirelli 120/80x16 MT75 and the scooter front is skinnier and possibly an inch shorter in diameter than the MT75. | ||
| Krjoseph |
Thanks, I was wondering what someone thought about the Diablo's that's ridden other tires too. I have no frame of reference since I've only known the stock dunlops. Compared to those, the diablos are awesome. | ||
| Ezblast |
I've been leaning my bike over and no flex. With my fat arse that means they will not flex for anyone else - pretty much guaranteed! This is a really great tire combination - I definitely recommend it! I was made for a scooter almost 200 lbs heavier - and is perfect for the Blast! EZ | ||
| Ezblast |
Something I noticed - contrary to the Avon commercials I find the Pirelli handles better in the rain than the Avon. EZ | ||
| Thump |
Doh...now you tell me  Lol. From the appearance of the tread I would have thought that the Avons would handle the rain better for this NW rider. That was the main reason I bought them, and extended wear. But if I got 4000 out of the Dunflops, the 'relli's should be comparable with my style of riding. I'm glad to hear they can handle the rain well. I look forward to giving them a spin next year. (Message edited by thump on March 28, 2009) | ||
| Ezblast |
Well in the stock sizes I was always hearing how the Avon handled wet better. But in the oversized, I really think the Pirelli do. Thats not taking anything away from the Avon though - that is a really good tire and handled SF's wet roads very well, but with the Pirelli's I hardly notice water is there. An always sticky tire - wild. The Avons air check would be almost every day, the Pirelli once to twice a week. EZ | ||
| Thump |
Thanks for the pressure tips. It is something I should pay more attention towards. | ||
| Milt |
So what's the consensus? Do the MT75s beat the old OEM Dunlops? | ||
| Ezblast |
They always did. EZ | ||
| Johnnymac |
Since this is the Pirelli tire thread, I figure I'd give an update on the ST66 rear tire in 140/70 that I've been riding for the last 5000+ miles. Starting with the most obvious feature, the mileage, the tire is a beast! I now have over 5000 miles on it and still have lots of tread left. To put that into perspective, the original Dunlop lasted 4500 miles until it reached the cords. My next tire, the Viper Stryke in 140/70 lasted only 3500 miles until I reached the cords. I run 34psi-35psi and weigh in at roughly 215lbs. I run hard with lots of WOT and do a lot of 2-up riding on the weekends. I commute heavily (80 miles/day) with about a 1/3 back road & 2/3 highway mix. The ride is comparable to the VS and it is a heavy tire. Smooth on the highway and not harsh at all. Being a harder compound than a straight sports tire, the ST66 takes a few miles to warm up. It's not instantly sticky like the MT75 is and it takes a couple miles to warm up to a decent temperature (a hair longer than the VS in 140/70). Once warm, however, it is an awesome handling tire. I push my tires to the limit (foot pegs and drive pully contact) and have actually gotten the ST66 over as far or farther than I did with the Viper Strykes. In a warmer climate the tire would be flawless. In a colder climate like I ride in, the North Eastern corner of the states, the tire does take longer to warm up and can be slightly skittish when pushed to the extremes until warmed up. In the wet it is better than the original Dunlops but not quite as good as the Viper Strykes. I just take it easier in the rain and frankly it just makes better sense to do so anyway. For me mileage is king and handling a close second. This tire meets all my needs and I am quite happy with it. As far as I know I am the only one on the board to have tried them and hopefully I won't be the last. I would still stick with a VS or the MT75 in the front though since front tires wear much better on the Blast and IMHO sticky front tires are most important. I will continue to update on the mileage I get from this tire. When it finally dies I will shed a tear or two but only until I get it's replacement mounted. Johnny | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Thanks for the write-up Johnnymac. IMHO sticky front tires are most important. Amen to that! I cant remember anyone saying that they preferred the stock Dunlops over the Pirelli's (or anything else for that matter). | ||
| Ezblast |
There is one person - he remains un-named - lol - but he's been wrong as often as right, so just chalk it up to one more time wrong - lol EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
LOL! | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
EZ: What tire pressures are you currently running on your Diablo's? I'm doing a track day this weekend on them (finally) and a higher tire pressure feels better on the street. However, I'd like to go as low as safely possible and I figure whatever you're running yours at should definitely put me in the safe range! Thanks. | ||
| Ezblast |
I'm running mine at 32psi front and rear - as being a bit lighter in stature than me I'd do 30psi front and rear - stay far back on the seat in the turns going fast and have fun - oh - and don't break hard going into turns - pass that to James as well - unnecessary braking can really slow your track time - the Pace is a good trainer for teaching how to use less brakes going into a corner and it can be a lot of fun as well - even practiced alone - lol EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Well, I was concerned about feeling like I'm running on a flat tire and getting a wobble in the turns with the air pressure too low, but now I'm worried. "stay far back on the seat in the turns going fast and have fun - oh - and don't break hard going into turns" Is there a special reason I should be concerned about loading up the front end? Do the scooter tires lose traction or suffer instability? FWIW: We wont be using the Diablo's on the race bike. Race speeds regularly exceed the tires speed rating. Besides they're to twitchy for the big track (thats why I'm trying them out on the short track). | ||
| Ezblast |
I like Twitchy - lol - fast response in steering input is is my ideal. Sitting further back is a tip I got from that early Blast racer, when I read his journal, and the other part is what I got from watching James ride the last few years - too much breaking going into corners, keep that to a min. just enough to settle the bike and then transition and accelerate out into the next - work on smoothness. The tires are fine, their speed rating was raised - see on line, those tires are way better than even the stock Pirelli - you just ride it like you stole it and you should be fine! I guarantee those tires will not fail you, and in fact should help your corner speed. EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
The tires are still P rated. It doesnt matter what the website say, it matters what the tire says. Newer tires might have a faster rating, but it'll say so on the sidewall. My only regret is that I had to use the rear tire to go to SLO. The new front and the flat worn rear dont roll over as nice anymore  James' only braking so he doesnt lose you!!!LOL! Seriously, its best not to judge how others ride by the SLO ride. The key is to not have anybody ride off into a ditch. So while many turns can be taken faster, its the leaders responsibility to not lure somebody into a turn faster than their ability. (Unless the purpose of the ride is to go as fast as possible-thats not the SLO ride). I'd put money on that you couldnt keep up with James on the track. The rule of thumb for the Blast is to not touch the brakes (they only slow you down). As for me, I dont care about lap times, just having fun someplace where the only thing I need to worry about is some moron who needs to prove himself by aggressively passing a slow moving Buell Blast LOL!} | ||
| Ezblast |
yeah - well I was right behind him and his braking slowed me down - lol - I know, however, its still good advice - you say so yourself - James probably is, I heard of his riding antics from Ferris/Jerry at several different battletrax's, and we know Ferris is no hack;0) - catch them in a corner Erik and pass them. Heck just have fun - my tires still look almost new - you should be ok and have a great time! EZ (Message edited by ezblast on June 05, 2009) | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
A tire report on the scooter Diablo's (new 110 front, used 140 rear) from my brief track day. As predicted: the front at 32psi felt sure footed in the turns, with an excellent ride. It was not as twitchy as on the street (helped I'm sure by the flat worn rear tire) it gave more 'turn in' than the more stable MT75, certainly feeling a bit more agile (but I still felt as though I was riding an old Raleigh 'chopper'!). Grip never was felt an issue, something I demand in a front tire. The rear tire at 30 psi, while lacking the agility it possessed when new, still gave a stable feel in the turns. Traction also never seemed an issue. What was alarming (and predicted from earlier riding) was the jarring I took from any bumps on the track. Whether it was the heavier tire or its larger size, it didnt soak up the bumps as well as the stock sized MT75. A lower tire pressure would have helped, something I was hesitant to do on an almost undersized rim (and never got the chance to try). I'm thinking a stock sized rear (or MT75) would have given me better results. As I stated earlier the Diablo 140 rear is probably better suited for a heavier rider (or perhaps yields longer tread life, but thats not my realm). On comparing profiles and wear, I dont see any difference between the MT75's (stock) or the 'tested' Diablos. These tires do like to lean over and beg for you to do it. The longer you wear in the 'chicken strips' though, the wider that flat spot gets and slows down their agility.The front tire is probably the best I've used. The rear will serve out its time on the street and I'll see how that goes. | ||
| Ezblast |
Sounds like someone had fun on the Diablos! EZ | ||
| Conwaybrew |
So, I need new tires - Diablos or MT75s? I need opinions people!  |
