| Author | Message | ||
     Ezblast |
The smoother you are through the corner the faster you'll be - thats what I work on - making my transitions seamless - I'm no racer though, track days are good for learning how to take corners - a battle trax type thing would also - if you could ever find one any more - its like car rally racing - it was great fun. EZ | ||
| Aaomy |
how many miles have you guys been getting on the mt-75 rears.. | ||
| Ezblast |
2000 to 3500 miles. EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Concur, though some have gotten more. | ||
| Reuel |
I passed 4K when I was doing my 70 mile each way commute on the highway. | ||
| Ezblast |
LOL - I think my next set of tires may be the new Pirelli Diablo in the plus sizes - now that they put the same belts in them as they use for the sport bikes - it may be worth trying - http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/viewcart.aspx?A=1&Item=134830&Style=5806&DivisionGroup=5&Division=32&Department=404 Product Description * Pirelli's new radial tire for the demanding class of sport scooters * Tread pattern adapted from the Pirelli Diablo sport tire adds the best wet handling and dry grip while limiting road noise * Only scooter tire with multi-ply carcass and patented 0 degree steel belt * High-performance tread compound imported directly from Pirelli's sport-touring tires results in more mileage and regular wear * Larger contact patch maximizes braking efficiency and traction in all weather conditions, which increases rider safety  These folks have a very good price on tires right now with free shipping. EZ | ||
| Indybuell |
Why those over the stock size MT75s? | ||
| Wolffsoul |
What size can I get in there? Front? Rear? I have Pirelli's now. I think they are MT75 | ||
| Ezblast |
the grip is probably as good as the regular MT75, maybe a bit better - I'll find out, however, the ratio really makes for a better handling bike as well - it goes more easily into corners, and is more sure footed - thats been my experience with the Avon, and so I'm hoping that the Pirelli will be even better - I'll see. Also this tire may have a bit longer life than the MT75 - I'd like to find that out as well. EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
I still only see a "P" rating on the rear tire. Fine for the street, but I need a new rear for a track day and its very likely I'll exceed the P rating (if 'tech' sees 'scooter' and a P rating, they may not have to let me run)  Indications are the rears are backordered until 10/3/08 Let me know if you find out different on the 2 issues. (I do know that tires are tested above and approved at a much higher speed than the speed rating. Still there's the tech issue if its still stamped "P"...) In practice I know there may be no difference in handling between the MT75 and Diablo (given size factors, etc) when leaned over. I just remember how nice that wide Kenda felt!  | ||
| Ezblast |
That P rating doesn't phase me - great handling however, rocks my boat - the 650 Burgman is a heavy puppy, so if its a P rating for that, I figure it will do better on a lighter bike. EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Concur, however "if 'tech' sees "scooter" and a "P" rating, they may not let me run" Thats where the concern lies. Generally track day organizers specify that underpowered bikes are not allowed and the Blast can fit in that category, especially on the faster tracks. Add a zealous tech inspector to that and "P" rated tires wouldnt fly. Though I probably wouldn't race (or more realistically let others race) on them where the rating is exceeded, I dont have a problem with them on the street. | ||
| Indybuell |
So, all as equal, you guys would suggest the MT75's for someone who just wants to replace some old worn out dunlops? I'm not looking for the stickiest, or excessive mileage. I just want a safe, reliable, and decently performing set of tires. The Dunlops don't feel too safe, and now that the rear has balded out down the center, I'd like to get rid of them. | ||
| Reuel |
You're out of luck. I think the MT75s are the stickiest. I got better mileage from the MT75s than I got from the Dun(f)lops. Sarcasm aside, the MT75s are the best stock sized tires you can get when you factor performance, price, stickiness, and all that stuff. | ||
| Indybuell |
Ugh. Well the local shop sells the fronts for $55, and $63 for the rear. Plus 20 to install them. ( I take in the bike, they do all of the work.) Is there anything I should check for reconnection when they put the wheels back on? Looks like just the sprocket, and drive belt. | ||
| Swampy |
Make sure they do not over tighten the axle nuts, rear torques to 48-52 ft. lbs. front torques to ....38-42 ft lbs? Pinch bolt on the front is like 13 ft lbs. Don't let them remove the rear pulley to install the tire, if they do you need to replace the attachment bolts as they are one-time-use. | ||
| Reuel |
The best price I found was $50 and $60 for a pair, shipped. My local shop charges $10 per tire if I bring just the wheel. I'd say that's a rather decent price. Check Break the axle nuts loose and torque them to Swampy's numbers. Most places will remove the pully, so just get yourself a set of those bolts and replace them after you pick up the bike. Or you could do what I do and just check the bolts frequently. Dammit, Swampy! You got me thinking I better get new bolts! I'll call the local HD shop and get some ordered... | ||
| Swampy |
If you are doing the tires yourself, you don't need to take anything off! Just ship the tires to my house, ride up, I will show you how to change and balance them, then ride yourself home. The Big Kid needed a new tire Thursday?...anyways, I walked in the house and told him to get off the couch, before he got out to the garage I had the tire off and the new one going on. Learn to do it yourselfs guys...and gals, it is not that hard to do and you get to skip all the drama at the place you have it done at(unless of course you bring it to me...). | ||
| Indybuell |
Swamp, You're too dam far away | ||
| Johnnymac |
LOL...I was going to say the same thing  Reuel, where did you end up ordering the tires from? | ||
| Reuel |
Look up at EZ's post with the picture and the link. Go to motorcycle tires, click on cruiser (?!?!) tires, and you'll find the MT75s. | ||
| Dankno |
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one checking out the new Pirelli's. I totally trust you guys on the Avons, but as I currently am employed by a tire (Sorry all, automotive only, nothing for 2 wheelers... yet..) retailer that competes directly with the only place (that I know of) that you can get car/truck Avons, it hasn't set well with me to order up the Viperstrykes... Even with the constant tugging to get away from the shady-ness that is the auto (especially tire retail) industry,... I can't yet decide if I want to go stock size MT75's or the oversize Diablo Scooter... I think the toughest part is the fact that it says "Scooter" on the sidewall... Pretty vain isn't it...  | ||
| Ezblast |
Worst that can happen is life the same as the regular Pirelli already have, and using the sportbike tech it should be even stickier than the stock Pirelli MT 75 cruiser, and since it was made for the largest, fastest scooter made - I'm not worried about its ability to handle the Blast that weighs in almost 200lbs lighter. Overall - a sure thing in my book with the only question being miles? EZ | ||
| Indybuell |
I just ordered a set of MT75s, and a couple of the spoon tire irons. Hopefully I will be able to figure this out | ||
| Indybuell |
They came in. Put them right on. I couldn't believe how freakin easy it was! | ||
| Monzaracer |
while some may call me on it I got 4367 miles from my Pirelli MT75 so I really cant complain. I honestly feel this tire had more thickness left over than my dunlop. Ill try to post pics of both tires as taken off. But i will try the 140/70 Michelin next time. I just want some longer wearing tires as I commute with my bike. While you may want to move this to the tires section,but if so, please copy it there and leave it up here. I honestly believe that with proper riding the Pirelli will live at least as long if not longer than a dunlop from my observation. | ||
| Indybuell |
I love these MT75s. Decently sticky, pretty freakin cheap. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Pirelli Diablo 140/70 mounted on a stock, unSwampyfied swingarm. Same clearance as a stock sized MT75. Tire growth at speed has not been checked yet, but I'm doubtful of any problems. Feels softer than the MT75. MT75 width 123mm. Diablo scooter width 133mm.  | ||
| Ezblast |
Do you have the matching front? EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
The front Diablo scooter 110/70 is not as tall and only 100mm wide. The MT75 is 104mm wide. It may result in a twitchier ride with better 'turn in'. The stock sized Diablo front may be taller. I'll test the 110/70 and probably sell it (if anyone is interested). |
