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Tsunamix
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 02:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lovin' the Blast so much I'm doing the repairs it needs myself.

Was taking out the cylinder to replace that infamous gasket the 2000's came with when I saw the real reason why it leaked: No gasket to begin with. Silly previous owner =P

Before I install the gasket I want to replace the other gasket and seals w/ fresh ones.

Says in the manual I have to turn the engine over until the piston hits a certain position when I reinstall the cylinder. How do I turn the engine over?

Any help would be awesome and would be great to ride for the summer! I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, btw.
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Swampy
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

San Fransisco Bay, thats Ezblasts territory!
Put the bike in gear and roll the rear tire will move the engine to where you need it!
Good luck on the gasket!
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Welcome!
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Tsunamix
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lovin' the Blast so much I'm doing the repairs it needs myself.

Was taking out the cylinder to replace that infamous gasket the 2000's came with when I saw the real reason why it leaked: No gasket to begin with. Silly previous owner =P

Before I install the gasket I want to replace the other gasket and seals w/ fresh ones.

Says in the manual I have to turn the engine over until the piston hits a certain position when I reinstall the cylinder. How do I turn the engine over?

Any help would be awesome and would be great to ride for the summer! I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, btw.
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Reuel
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Put the rear end up on jack stands with a rod through the rear axle. Put the transmission in 5th gear. Grab the tire and slowly turn it forward like you're going down the road. Did you really pull the cylinder, or just the head?
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Jlnance
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 06:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If he is doing a top end gasket kit, he has the cylinder off.

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Jlnance
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 06:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW, if you've go it torn down that far, replace the valve guide seals. They are $4 and it made a huge difference in oil consumption.

Unfortunately, I don't know what brand of seals are in there, but they aren't the Harley ones. Cyclerama replaced them when I sent them the head (click on that picture for the sordid details.) If you shoot Pammy a PM she might tell you.
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Tsunamix
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wow, awesome responses, Thanks everyone! Ezblast, hope to see ya around!
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most definitely - though now I live in Antioch. Bought a house!
EZ
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Jlnance
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

though now I live in Antioch.

Update your profile dude.

mail me your address when you get a chance. I'll take a look at your new place on satellite.
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Done and done;0)

EZ
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Tsunamix
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm in Daly City, not too far. headin' out to buy torque wrenches and gaskets today
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Jlnance
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EZ - Wow, I'll need to learn a completely different route to find you now. It took me years to remember the last one.

Hope you're enjoying having a place of your own. Speaking of which, have you seen Dora lately? I don't see many posts from her.
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

She's busy living the SF urbanite life, and riding with the SFMC when she can.
EZ
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Tsunamix
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well, got the engine all put together, but now the darn thing won't start. changed the battery and tried starting it a few times but still nothing.
It's definitely turning over, but stops after one second. If I keep trying to start it, smoke comes up from the clutch lever (eek) and the lever now makes a loud creaking noise. Tried adjusting that too, but no luck. Anyone have any ideas? I haven't installed the stock exhaust yet, could that be it?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like you forgot the engine to frame ground strap that goes on the front mount and its now using the clutch cable as a ground.
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah - I told him that off line when I got the email - lol
EZ
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Tsunamix
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

soon as i read this i ran down to check the ground strap and wow, you guys are good. I'm gonna strap that down tomorrow morning, it'll be okay since the battery's not connected right now.
I owe you guys a round of beer
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No beer, just 'pay it forward'. You've learned something you can now pass on.
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Concur!
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Tsunamix
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's alive! Alive!!!

Engine started up in less than 1/2 a second of pushing button. just need to go to dealer tomorrow for a new nut to secure that main ground. Still leaks a bit in the front/left side of base gasket too, will try tightening that up.
Again, thanks you guys! Sure no beer? Last chance...j/k. Of course I'll pay it forward.
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Come by my place and we'll take a look at that base leak. Email/pm me for directions,etc.
EZ
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Bzbuell
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm going in for the rocker gasket swap as my first bit of maintenance on the '00 Blast I bought 2 weeks ago. Three questions:

1) How much should I expect to spend on the gasket itself?

2) What else is recommended while I have the top-end disassembled?

3) Any tips/tricks on removing the gas tank without getting fuel everywhere?

Thanks in advance
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Go 3 topics down - that should help.
EZ
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Bzbuell
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, EZ. Are there any other inexpensive recommended fixes while I have the rockerbox top off?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocker cover gasket kit pt#17036-91 or 17036-91A $40-$50. Kit says 'XL'.

Make sure the petcock is off, keeps lots of newspaper handy, turn the fuel line hose to the ground (onto paper or drain can) it can only leak so much fuel, so thats all. (I like to turn the petcock off while its running and wait until it dies, that gets most of the fuel gone).
When putting the fuel tank rubber hold down 'knobs' back on, grease the pins so next time they'll come off a lot easier!
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Tsunamix
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well, sorry for the late update, went on a long vacation and got to work on the bike again last week.

I rode it around for a bit and found a huge leak. Turned out the head gasket cover wasn't sealing all the way, so I put the bike back up on the hoist, got in, and found it to be a washer that shouldn't have been there.

So I fixed that, but while putting in the engine bolts, one of them, (the front bottom one that goes directly to engine) breaks. the head came clean off with the bolt inside, flush with the engine.

Before I go out to get the right tools tomorrow, does anyone have any recommended methods on getting it out? drill the sucker out?

hope i don't have to bring it to a dealer just to get it out =\
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know a method that works, however, its tedious and most don't have the patience for it - do an easy out by hand - use a tap handle - that way you can feel any catches or snags and work through them slowly - that has always worked in the Navy and in my civilian life - you tend not to screw it up this way, which is where half the guys do screw up - those threads are built with catches to make it difficult for a bolt to back out - doing it with a drill usually snags the easy out/bolt on one of the catches - unless you go real slow (and there is still a chance if you don't catch it when it snags) and then usually the easy out breaks in the bolt - or just works its way out of the bolt.
EZ

(Message edited by ezblast on August 01, 2008)
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Tsunamix
Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

okay so i'm gonna go grab an easy out kit tomorrow and a tap handle. hope i can find one around me. Thanks Ezblast!
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Swampy
Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tsunamix, are you talking about the "Do Not Remove" bracket bolts?
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