| Author | Message | ||
     Xgecko |
another thing to do is get a fork brace. it will provide a more controled front end. BTW I have Works springs in my fork. | ||
| Buellistic |
Have a 2 inch spacer in each fork leg and SE Heavy fork oil ... "AND" a 2 inch spacer in the rear shock ... In BLASTing LaFayette (Message edited by buellistic on July 30, 2006) | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
MaBueller: 2" spacers in the front and rear would be way overkill (especially at the rear), unless you like a really hard riding bike or weigh a significant amount more than the average population. There are actually ways to measure your front and rear suspension without just throwing spacers in willynilly. Small measured increases are better than giant leaps. | ||
| Buellistic |
CORRECTION ON POST Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 07:29PM(TYPO ERROR), REAR SHOCK 1 INCH SPACER ... In BLASTing LaFayette | ||
| Sking1973 |
Probably a silly post, but I'll ask anyway. Does the Pirelli MT75 suck? I put the rear MT75 on my bike approx. 1500 miles ago and I'm down to the wear marks. It's also wearing flat. I've checked and rechecked the psi and I'm running what the book and what I've read in some posts here. I'm not carving it up or anything. Most of my riding is in town or highway (55-60mph). Is this the norm for this tire? If so, I will be switching to something else once winter roles around. Any suggestions? | ||
| Ezblast |
Pirelli for riding and Avon for commuting. GT - JBOTDS! EZ  | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Concur with EZ. I usually get double that out of mine though, even with wearing them 'flat'(with chicken strips!). They are as yet the best handling tire to fit a stock Blast! (pending report on the new Avons). (Message edited by gearheaderiko on August 01, 2006) | ||
| Mabueller |
1. The Avon's are sold as "scooter tires" Is there a difference?? 2. Really, the Pirelli for riding vs. the Avon's? Why do you think that? TIA, <Jim | ||
| Ezblast |
Read the tire section - it becomes self evident - we are of course talking about the Avon AM52 vs. the MT75 Pirelli - the jury is still out on the new Avons - will know more about them come the Alice ride this weekend. GT - JBOTDS! EZ (Message edited by ezblast on August 01, 2006) | ||
| Xgecko |
I rode the MT75's and the AM52's in hot weather in Hawaii. the MT75's were awesome at everything except for lasting (though they did last longer than the Dunflops) Now the Avons are completely different...they take time to warm up (even in 100degree heat) but they are nice tires though never as sticky as the MT72's I've had my Avon's a good 2000 miles longer than I've ever run a MT75 and I have at least another 1K in the set on my Blast at the moment...If your Blast is a Toy the MT75's are great. If on the other hand you commute on your's like i do on mine well the AM51/52 Avon is probably a better choice...That said I actively await EZ Post Ride report | ||
| Buellistic |
More air perssure less heat = less wear ??? | ||
| Cobalt60 |
The pressure and wear thing makes sense. I know on a hot day you burn through tires several times faster. Pressure would reduce rolling resistance, friction and heat. I tried more air pressure in my last set of dunlops and the rear lasted no longer than normal. I did get better gas mileage. Average up to 70 from the mid 60's. I have not worn out the front yet, but the rear lasted about 4k miles. I think the extra pressure in the rear makes the center tread wear out quicker which may be balanced by the reduced heat. They definitely don't grip as well. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
"They definitely don't grip as well". Exactly. Lets not forget that the higher the tire pressure the easier the wheel will lock up when the brakes are applied. | ||
| Mabueller |
Great info. Thanks for the correction on which Avon's were being suggested for commuting. As others are, I am looking forward to the word on the new wider Avon tires EZ is trying out. Could they be almost as sticky as the Pirelli's, yet better carvers due to being wider ??? Waiting for the post-ride report before placing an order. Enjoy the Alice Ride! | ||
| Cobalt60 |
I just ordered an Avon AM52 rear tire. The new roadriders won't be available here until winter. Hopefully they'll come with studs for the ice. I came across a couple of MT90-16 tires. They look like they'll work. Has anybody tried one of them? | ||
| Naustin |
Who told you the roadrider isn't available till winter? My information from Avon was that a major distributor would be getting them any time now... | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
MT90-16 I'm sure wont work as those are HD sizing numbers for Big Twin tires. | ||
| Cobalt60 |
My local shop hadn't heard of them. They called around to their distributors. They were told not available until winter. I haven't been able to find them online either. I may ride all year this year. So for Christmas I'm getting the blast the new Avons. I'm riding to Charlotte next week for work. Hopefully, the dunlops will survive the round trip. | ||
| Naustin |
You'll need a AM51 for the front. The Roadrider is a universal fitment and only available in the proper size for the rear. There is no "front" roadrider, but the regular AM51 is a good tire and will be compatible. There is a report on the Yahoo Group by William that his Viper Stryke is toast already. It wore un-evenly and is into the wear indicator on one side of the tire, and not yet on the other side.... Doesn't sound good... Be careful with yours Ed and whoever else has one.... | ||
| Ezblast |
Sounds like his wasn't mounted correctly - too much weight used. - sounds like the mounter botched it. GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Ezblast |
The tire review with over 300 miles on the new tires - with a total of just over 400 - first some observations that qualify the tires in some respects concerning maintenance and longevity. Low air-pressure is a fact of life for a tire this size being ridden by a big guy - lol - let me explain. I took the bike down to the gas station just about 2.3 miles from home - checked tires in 65 (About) deg. sunny weather - sweet - added a pound of cold air - bring the tire to 30.5lbs - for sort rides and in-city this would be fine, however, after 6 to 8 miles I should have stopped and checked air because as soon as my tach twitched at about 10 miles out from the station I knew there was rub - stopped and checked - 34lbs - grew 3.5lbs. from cold - a rub stripe was just starting - brought it back down and all was fine for the rest of the trip - watch your air pressure on an oversized tire if your a big guy - definately - lol. Now on to tire performance - pressure stayed constant at 30.5 for entire ride after that first adjustment and no further rubbing occured - thats how much space you have when 3.5lbs of air pressure can make a difference - lol. Once warmed up these tires are mega sticky - I got to behead the top of the snake in several places - will post pics of this later when I take pictures of it with the new exhaust and front brakes as well - lol - and in general my strips reflects the red bike with the Pirelli tires. Soon - Stinson Beach via the Panoramic Hwy and taking it to the edge Dragon style - ;0) - at least as sticky as the Pirelli - when warmed up - I would venture stickier - and 10 bucks less in cost inc. mounting - hmm - next question - life span - except for that bit of rubber I rubed off - lol - the tires profile still looks new - when the average lifespan of your tire is only 2500 to 3000 miles - you notice quickly changes in the tire - if I get the start of any kind of shoulder - that becomes an exscuse to roadtrtip the bike to rub the shoulders off - even the red - though it may only be a 3 or 4 loops involving Twin Peaks and Portola - lol - I feel very good about this tires handling ability - and in a week or two - probably two due to when brake parts arrive and I switch out the front disc, line, and pads - I'll be prepared for the ride that always reduces my chickenstrips to practically ziltch without even trying - lol - and its a beautiful ride as well. The ride was great - tons of people avoided the area thinking the area would be packed and though there where plenty of bikers there where few cars - which made for really fast riding - and every time I stopped - the bike became a topic of conversation - 4 times - lol - 35/280/35/9/35 to Alices was beautiful and the fresh road on the Devel's Slide part of hwy 1 - made the ride even sweeter - its a pity I can never get folks to join me for these rides - they are motorcycling paradise! Overall - I'm very happy with the tires so far, of course being oversized - me and the tires - lol - I have to keep an eye on their pressure, but otherwise they are working as I had hoped - and I've a feeling longevity is the only question left to answer - and my tires have never lasted that long anyway - will these suprise me? Hmmmm - so far yes! GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Mabueller |
So EZ, for an, ahem, "little guy" of 180lbs. you would so far recommend the tires over the Pirelli's? | ||
| Ezblast |
Heck yeah - though they also take about 6 to 8 miles to warm up - like I said though - keep the tire pressure between 29.5 and 31.5 max - these are track type pressures due to the fact that the carcass is kept at taunt but not past that point - not the best for mialage however, after 1000 miles you could probably up the pressure a bit without worry of rubbing, due to the carcass curing enough to hold shape with the added pressure, thus adding to the longevity of the tire - overall. I keep both front and rear in this range - as a ballanced approach to riding - sticky - lol - and at worst they will last as long as the Pirelli though I hope for longer Avon-type life. GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
So this is a 'high maintenance' tire and not for those who neglect very regular inspections. Sounds like it might be perfect with an extra inch added to the rim width  | ||
| Ezblast |
Its Pretty good now - though they are high maintenance in the keeping track of pressure department - at least for any long ride - just stop after the first 6 to 8 miles set your pressure to 30.5lbs and your good for the rest of the 100s of mile trip ahead - no one could hit the edges of the Kendas and I'm pretty darn sure that is possible with these tires - I'm really curious about life expectancy due to the fact that it looks a lot newer still than a Pirelli with the same amount of miles and I kept it to 20 or more above posted without trying in some very curvy roads and had nothing but fun - not one worrying moment reared its head except that rise in pressure rub which my tach warned me instantly of, and was easily fixed by reducing to correct running pressure - where it staid for the rest of the trip - thats ok by me. GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
I'm guessing tire growth at over 100mph might be cause for concern with a margin of error than narrow, but if the tire handles better than the Pirelli it might be worth a little swingarm 'modification.' | ||
| Swampy |
EZ, what was the tire rubbing on? | ||
| Ezblast |
the middle crossover tab - a few good wacks could probably modify it - however, I'd prefer just watching the air pressure though - lol - GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Swampy |
I already bent them in on both the Blasts as they both had a Kenda on them at one time. So I should be good to go with the Viper Strykes? | ||
| Ezblast |
Yes - I'd like to add - I was questioned - did the tire rub cause the added heating of the tires expanding them - and the answer is a qualified no - because when I droped the air pressure - no rubbing - raise it there is rub - sure the rub would cause some heat, however, this was caught right away and rectified - and then tested, because I don't like suprises - lol - as long as I kept the air pressure between 29.5 to 31.5 - usually at 30.5 - its what I always run my tires at - I had no rubbing - however, as soon as they started getting to 33 - rubbing would start - so as I've said - watch the air pressure on these puppies and you should be fine - next test is to see if I can bring them to the edges - I know they handle great - will happen as soon as I replace my front brakes - lol - GT - JBOTDS! EZ (Message edited by ezblast on August 07, 2006) |
