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Gansett
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is everyone using for oil, synthetic or regular? Which is the best way to go?
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mobil 15/50 synth & trans gets Mobil 75/80 synth. - From the very beginning. Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Blake
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do we really need another oil thread? ohwell The Knowledge Vault is for everyone, Thumpers included. If you really want to learn what "everyone is using for oil" the Lubrication topic there, with its 1,100+ posts would be a great place to start. :)

"Preferred Engine oil (brand/grade)" is also one of the items in everyone's user profile that we can share.

A good quality synthetic is by far the better oil than any conventional.
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Short cut to oil thread
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/3590.html?1049813044

Here's what he's talking about - lol
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Awww... C'mon Blake, I think you are missing an opportunity here! Even Harley wised up and took this route...

Time for a line of "BadWeb Full Synthetic 20w50" motor oil!

You could even have several lines, the "Normal Duty" stuff (Castrol or Valvoline 20w50 full synthetic at $6 per quart) and Race Duty (Mobil 1 V Twin at $9 per quart), or even the Designer Line (Sreaming Eagle 20w50 full synthetic, which I strongly suspect will be VERY similar to our Race Duty line ;) ).

All it would take is a box of stickers :) Whenever anyone asks about oil, we can just say "Based upon our extensive experience base, we recommend only the BadWeb line of oils... Any other oil will flat spot your muffler bearings".
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S2pengy
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How can I tell if my muffler bearings are flat spotted?????? Does it whine rather than howl???
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Desperado1959
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 06:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, Just curious here. Does anyone else's Blast go through what seems to me a bit to much oil? Mine goes from full on the stick down to the end every fill up. And it isn't leaking and does not appear to burn any. So where is it going? Any ideas?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it being sucked into the carb? Do you still have the stock PCV set-up? I've read that when this is done away with they use much less oil(esp. if you ride hard).The fixes range from turning the hose away from the carb(easy) to re-routing the entire system(time consuming)!
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Jprovo
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Desperado,

Is your Blast smoking? If yes, and the spark plug looks oily grimy it's probably rings. If yes, and the plug looks clean, I'd pull the exhaust and look at the at the exhaust valve guide. Mine consumed a heck of a lot of oil when I had a cracked valve guide.

James
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Buellmule
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I get oil in the air filter box. Has anyone had that? Excuse my lack of terminology. The dealer claims it will do that. The throttle (valve?)clatters when I give it gas also. Any Ideas?

Bmule
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BadWeB oil
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Sarodude
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bmule-

The slide clattering is pretty much an indication of lugging the engine too low in the rev range. Pick a lower gear and / or slip the clutch a bit more (if you're launching).

Oil puking into the airbox is not uncommon. Keep an eye on your oil consumption (miles / tanks / SOMETHING per quart? oz? smidgen?) and get an idea of how much oil is being consumed under what circumstances. Our Blast is a guzzler.

-Saro
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Buellmule
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Saro,

I'll be sure to keep an eye on that. But the clattering happens even when I give it gas, sitting still. It's the piece that looks like a piston (moving up and down), inside the air filter case, Uh,(boy, do I feel stupid)
on the accelerator?

Please bare with me.

Bmule
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Sarodude
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bmule-

Point is that it probably only happens at lower RPMs. "Giving it gas" is one thing. You can be giving an engine gas while it's still way low in the rev range. My reference above to the slide is that piece that looks like a piston inside the air filter case (or airbox).

If you're curious, there's lots of info on the net and on BadWeB about how Constant Velocity (or CV) Carbs work. If ya don't find what you need to know - just ask (in an appropriate thread so Blake doesn't post a frowney face!).

-Saro
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Buellmule
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks again Saro, and Blake will just have to get over it. lol
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Desperado1959
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jprovo,
The plug is fine. It's a nice medium tan in color. And it doesn't appear to be burning it. It's barely over 12,500 miles on her now. So I hope the guides are good. Using about 200ml. ever tank. So maybe that isn't much for a Blast.

Gearheaderiko,
Yes the whole thing is still bone stock. Sounds like something easy enough to check the PCV set up. I guess it wouldn't hurt to move it away from the carb.
Thanks for the input guys. Ride 'em like ya stole 'em.
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Jprovo
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Desperado,

If it's not burning, it's probably blowing it out of the breather like EriK says. I usually use about 4oz every 200 miles, pretty close to what you use.

Nancy/BuellMule,

Have your breather re-routed, Jerry (Blastin) should be able to show you how. It really cut down on my oil consumption, and kept the oil off the bike.

James
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Buellmule
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey James, How's it going, dude? Thanks for your input also. I'll get ahold of him and find out. I appreciate all the help you guys can give me.

Have a good one!
Bmule
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Jprovo
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nancy, I'm doing great!

I'm hoping that you and CJ can come to Socal in the winter next year and "get a lean on" while riding some of the prettiest roads in the country.

James
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Cj_xb
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm up for it if bmule is !? What do ya say nanc, you said a WARM place ??

CJ XB
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Buellmule
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got to get that XB9S first. I feel the need for more speed.
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Cj_xb
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You Go Girl !!!!

CJ XB
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Found on another board - a good idea - Enjoy!

I know I could make a fortune selling these on eBay, but I'm going
> to tell you how to make your own.
>
> Getting a good dip stick reading on the Blast is a pain, but there
> is a better way. Find a transparent drinking straw. With an
> indelible marker, put two marks on the straw, one mark at 5/16
> inches from the end and the second at 15/16 inches from the same
end.
>
> Now, remove the dip stick and set it aside. Put the marked end of
> the straw into the tank, keeping it vertical, UNTIL IT TOUCHES
> BOTTOM. Put your finger over the other end of the straw and pull
> the straw out of the tank. The two lines on the straw correspond
to
> the marks on the dip stick and the oil trapped inside the straw
> shows the level of oil in the tank. Check the level and lift your
> finger off the straw to let the trapped oil drain back into the
tank.
>
> The really great thing about the Miracle Blast Oil Level Test Tool
> is that you can put a funnel in the oil tank opening to add a
> little oil without making a mess, then use the tool right through
> the funnel to recheck the level and see if you need to add some
more.
>
> The deluxe version of the Miracle Blast Oil Level Test Tool will
be
> a piece of pirex tube with the marks etched on, kept in its own
> padded genuine imitation leather case that is color matched to
your
> Blast body parts. - Who wants to invest ; )


LOL -
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oil level is less than an inch from the bottom of the tank? Really?
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Naw - but there is a inside rise in that section of the frame you see as you look down that the oil does cover - so that is all you would need. A picture would show it better - lol - go sneek a look in a friends Blast and you'll see what I mean - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Naustin
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd buy the pyrex model provided it fit under the seat, the case had a Pegasus on it, and the whole thing cost less than $20 including shipping.
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Bikediver
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow,

I was joking about the pyrex version. I'll have to look into licensing the Pegasus logo.

SS
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL
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Jlnance
Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I read about the straw thing a few weeks ago, but just got around to trying it tonight. I make the straw, stick it in the tank and the oil doesn't even come up to the first line. "Well that can't be right," I think, "Maby the oil is too thick to go into the straw." I go and get a McDonalds straw. One of the ones thats about 3/8 of an inch in diameter, and I mark it up. I stick it in the tank and the same thing happens. "Where the hell is my oil," I'm thinking. Now I check it with the dipstick. Sure enough it's very low. The thing is, it's hard enough to read the dipstick that it wouldn't be hard to convice yourself that it was fine if you went suspicious. I had noticed that my oil consumption had gone down. At least I thought it had. I added about 1/2 a quart and now it's back up to normal.

The straw is a great idea. My engine will certainly be happier :-)
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check oil after 1/2 hr riding - engine off.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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