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Midnightrider
| | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 04:10 am: | 
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Jim
Go for it. No shared mounting points. When I mounted my hardware I did the saddle bag stuff first, then the top box hardware. When I was done I thought it would probably have been a little easier to do the top box first so I didn't have to reach through the saddle bag brackets to work on the top box's hardware - but it is definitely not a show-stopper. Besides, if your luck is anything like mine it might be some time before you receive the second shipment (although my new Buell guardian angel has been able to check at the factory and verify the saddle bags are indeed on their way - ETA Monday!) Besides, you'll really appreciate the pieces that you do have.
Don |
Ironbuttbill
| | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 09:37 am: |
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Jim...I was under the impression that the top box wasn't available separately, and if the dealer can get it separately, it will be have a different key. You might want to check with the dealer first.
Bill |
Daves
| | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 09:46 am: |
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You can't order just the top case.
It is probably the one they forgot to send in the first place. |
Midnightrider
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 03:46 pm: |
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FINALLY got my bags. Do I have the record? Ordered Oct 21st
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Thunderbox
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 03:52 pm: |
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Nope. I ordered mine 2nd Aug and recieved them Nov 15th. Hows about those apples. LOL |
Rkc00
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 03:54 pm: |
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Ordered mine on Oct 5th and received them on Dec. 23.
That is 79 days for me.
Mike
Long Island, NY |
Milo_h
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 07:45 pm: |
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As promised, here is the side bag install update.
I started with the right side. All went well enough. I had to "chase" out the 1/4-20 threads at the foot peg, too much of an interference fit for me. Loosely bolted the bracket to the peg mount, then started the remaining bolts, and moved to the left side.
Man, this side is off a mile! Well, in fitment terms it was. About a 3/8 inch. The only way I was able to attach this side without any machining, was to remove the entire peg support from the bike. Then, install the 1/4-20 bolt at the peg mount hole, start the remaining two bolts, and finally reattach the peg support to the bike.
This procedure allowed me to "force" the bracket into position. Not the best scenario. But it worked, and required no drilling/fitting.
Now.........has anyone had any interference with the bag latches themselves? I have not taken any pictures yet. But, on the left side of my bike the triple tail bracket is offset toward the bag (away from the seat) 3/4 to 1 inch. When compared to the right triple tail support. In order to open the bag, the latching plate (that has the key lock on it) has to be "gently persuaded past the triple tail bracket.
Hope I explained all this well enough.
Peace
Milo |
Al_lighton
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 09:38 am: |
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I discovered something this weekend that is a little disconcerting...
I was changing my rear tire. This requires removal of the idler pulley to get the required belt slack. But the pulley can't come off the studs because the footpeg casting is in the way. The three bolts that hold the footpeg casting to the frame needed to be removed. I don't have my bags on yet, but it became obvious that the 4th bolt that attaches the side bag to that footpeg casting will also need to be removed. I hope that when that 4th bolt is removed from the saddlebag bracket that it is aligned well enough to re-insert without having to loosen the other bolts on the saddlebag bracket. And I also hope all these aluminum threads are up to the task of the constant R&R at every tire change...
If I were Buell, I'd convert the idler wheel studs to bolts, and helicoil the cases they go into.
(Message edited by al_lighton on January 10, 2006) |
Thunderbox
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 10:13 am: |
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This may be a stupid question but what the hey. If the top box is only available with the side boxes does that mean if I damage the top box I will have to go buy the whole shabang to get a replacement. Something isn't right with this senario. |
Electraglider_1997
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 10:35 am: |
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Al_L,
I had to helicoil my oil pan on the E-glide right before my seemingly annual pilgrimage to South Dakota this past summer. Anyway that was my first dealings with a helicoil and it came out just fine. Sounds to me like your suggestion may be something worth doing on a DIY basis. |
Blake
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 05:02 pm: |
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Al,
I thought that only the rear axle needed to be loosened in order to get the belt to slacken. Did that change with the new models this year? |
Stevem123
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 05:16 pm: |
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On the idler pulley issue I found the same issue with needing to remove the footpeg bracket. I however, did not remove the side bag bracket bolt. I just let the footpeg bracket hang from the bag bracket and flexed the assembly out just enough the remove the belt idler pulley. I do agree with changing the studs to bolts so the pulley can be removed easier. That thing was a B**ch to get off and back on again....
A tire change on the side of the road would be near impossible!
I do love the bike though! |
Electraglider_1997
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 06:07 pm: |
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Here's what I surely hope happens with ULY upgrades by the factory. Most things they do will be able to be changed on our 1st year bikes. Lord knows how they plan on getting more degrees of steering. Fenders should be easy. XB9 primary sprocket and a higher 5th gear. My e-glide does 70 mph at 3k rpm. I think the uly does 70 at 3.5k rpm. That would help on the mpg also. I love the bike but it will change over the years to get us to buy a new one. I'm amenable to that. |
Brat
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 06:28 pm: |
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I'm with you, hopefully the factory hears us and the next model rectifies the small problems we're discovering! |
Dave
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 07:52 pm: |
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Thunderbox-DaveS told me the top case is available solo. Perhaps w/out the bracket.
DAve
(Message edited by dave on January 10, 2006) |
Blake
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 09:26 pm: |
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The Electra-Glide's rev limit is... ? Like 5,400 rpm? |
Al_lighton
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 01:17 am: |
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Blake,
You loosen the rear axle in order to get enough slack to remove the idler which gives enough slack to remove the wheel.
I think you need a Uly. You need an XB series bike, and while you may have been to huge a dude for the other XBs, I think a Uly ought to fit you about just right. I bet Dave could give you a good deal for Badweb sponsorship! |
Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 08:28 am: |
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>>>>Something isn't right with this senario.
Noted. By the time you need to buy a single piece or part I am confident you will be able to.
Any problems in the meantime, drop me a note. |
Electraglider_1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 10:30 am: |
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Blake,
I looked at the tach and the redline starts at only 5K rpms. Sure it's low and that is why the engine is in great shape at 42k miles. It's slow, ponderous and comfortable. I can control it better at low speeds than the ULY. It's first gear speed is perfect, my feet can flat foot on the ground with bent knees, and it will turn in a way smaller circle than my ULY since it has normal degrees of steering. Having written all that I still think the ULY is way more fun. It's quicker (no shiite), and takes corners like it is on a rail and the riding position seems to make my neck feel better. I get a terrible pain in the neck on long distance rides on the E-glide and though I'm not sure, I think the ULY will be different. I've been putting up with that pain for probably 7 years but only on long rides.
(Message edited by electraglider_1997 on January 11, 2006) |
Crusty
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 10:18 pm: |
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I bought my bike on Dec.3rd. The luggage was ordered on Dec.6th. (This was verified by Buell Customer Service) Nobody knows when it will arrive at my dealer. My dealer was told it should take 4 weeks to get here, but it's well past a month, already. I'll be happy if it arrives in 6 - 8 weeks. |
Crusty
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 10:20 pm: |
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However, I picked up and installed the Low Seat this evening! Tomorrow, I'll ride to work! |
Midnightrider
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 10:30 pm: |
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Crusty - you may want to explore other options. Some dealers are stocking them now. I had a similar experience with a dealer who was absolutely no help. I had several chances to cancel my order, get a refund, and buy them through another dealer, but I had this overactive loyalty thing going and stuck with my dealer. Plus I didn't want to pay the shipping. Big mistake. I could have cut nearly a month off my wait time. I finally did get the bags, and they are worth waiting for, but it was a frustrating experience. "Daves" on this web site has had them from time to time. If I were to do it again, once I found a source with in-stock bags I'd pick them up there and cancel with my dealer. Just my 2 cents worth
Good Luck
Don |
Blake
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 11:07 pm: |
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Al,
I do have my eye on a Uly for sure. I like 'em, a LOT!
Is it not possible to remove the axle entirely and then remove the belt? I swear I've seen Keith remove the belt on his XB9S and he never had to remove the idler/tensioner pulley. Is that something new for the Uly and all the new Buells? Doesn't make sense to me yet. Splain it to me amigo. just remove the axle entirely? Still under too much load from belt tension. |
Stevem123
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 11:41 pm: |
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Well I'm not Al but I did try removing the axle to remove the wheel without removing the idler pulley and I could not get enough clearance to remove the belt. The wheel would not go back far enough to get the needed clearance. It is a PITA but if you follow the recommended procedure then it's not so bad. |
Crusty
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 06:02 am: |
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Midnight; the bags are drop shipped directly from the manufacturer in Germany. It isn't the dealer's fault. I know that Daves has them in stock, but this dealer always treated me well when I bought my Harleys from him back in the '80s, and I'm trying to encourage them to get enthusiastic about Buells.
This area used to have two of the top ten Buell dealers. I'm hoping that if I show a little patience, they'll get enthused. If they're enthused, they'll sell more bikes. |
Daves
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 07:33 am: |
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Crusty,
The bags are shipped from Germany to East Troy and then to the dealerships.
Supply has been on and off.
You should have yours in the next week or so if they have been on order that long.
I am out of them right now and waiting on some too.
You are right, it's not your dealer's fault. |
Midnightrider
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 02:27 pm: |
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I am intimately familiar with the supply chain for the hardbags. I know I waited for at least 6 weeks and all I got from the my local dealership’s parts department was “we have no control”. When I mentioned this to my salesman, he had the dealership owner call. Three days later, the bags were in. Coincidence? – it could be. When they arrived, one was damaged and they were returned. At that time I was told the “factory” was fully stocked and delivery would be in a few days. Two weeks later, no bags. I called Buell to complain, and less than 12 hours later a very terse parts department manager called me to tell me that the bags would be shipped that day and arrive within 3 days (which they did). Another coincidence? I doubt it.
So I while I agree it’s not the dealer’s fault, I also don’t believe they are powerless over the whole situation, just complacent. And there are other options.
On the other hand, “Daves” is a trustworthy source, so I could be wrong. It wouldn’t be the first time.
I also know I have to let this go – so I promise not to even look at this thread again
Good Luck |
Jjg0324
| | Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 10:30 pm: |
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Well I feel like I need to vent a little so here goes. When installing my rear trunk bracket I ran into a familiar problem. Rounding out the middle of the cute button head screws Buell & Harley insist on using. I don't know why they continue to use these tiny little torx and hex key holes in steel screws, that weld themselves into the aluminum castings they thread into. Oh wait, check that, I do to know, cause it looks good! But boy is it a btch when you have to remove them to install accessories or service. Now after a couple hours drilling, not-so-EZ-outing etc, I have succeeded in breaking the bolt off flush with the aluminum tail housing. The bolt I am working with is the one holding on the right grab handle, and is used to mount the rear trunk mount. Need to run down to the hardward store for a fresh batch of drills and EX-outs. Anyway thanks, I feel better now.
Thank You
Jim |
Crusty
| | Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 10:43 pm: |
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Use Never Seize on all the stainless bolts; It will help prevent the problem from happening again. |
Fubar
| | Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 12:55 am: |
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Sorry (kinda) to be the exception. I am expecting my Uly in about a week and the dealer already has my bags waiting. They did a dealer trade to make sure to have them when the bike came.
Thanks to McGuire HD in Walnut Creek, CA for the continued exceptional service! This is the fourth bike I have bought from them. Coulda gotten a (black) bike sooner at another dealer, but this level of service is priceless.
fubar |
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