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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...you can own the Ducati Hypermoto! http://tinyurl.com/3dlb8g

Decisions, decisions...
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think it's an easy one...
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>I think it's an easy one...

Good. . . then try to get one. I've been calling, and have no reason to doubt they'll make the March date, they are promising. . . but, t'aint soup till it's served.

To quote Dean Adams . .

quote:

And while we have not ridden the bike as yet


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Aldaytona
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I had $11,500 and couldn't buy a XB12, I think I'd rather have 500 cases of Sam Adams.
It's money better spent, and I can't even speak Italian.
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WOW...anybody looking for a super clean S1W and GSXR 750 track bike?
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Xbrad9r
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that would buy 46000 crispy chicken nuggets at Wendy's
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thats a good price, if you are willing to have a heavier bike that makes less HP then an XB12.

Seriously though, thats a great price for a great bike, just like the XB12. I think both will sell well, and I would enjoy owning or riding either!
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Ducxl
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wouldn't waste my money on an ORDINARY air cooled Ducati.For the money a Buell is the easy winner,hands down.And I'M a Ducatisti. However....the package is COOL.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm very suprised the direction this thread took!

The Ducati Hypermotard was my favorite bike at the entire international motorcycle show this year.



http://www.webbikeworld.com/ducati-motorcycles/hyp ermotard/

If I could only get one bike, the Hypermotard isn't practical enough, but if I could get a couple bikes, you better believe this bike would be on the list of Bikes to Test!
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good. . . then try to get one.

I was implying that I would take the Buell hands down.
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I took a good long hard look at the Hypermoto just two weeks ago. Admittedly it was a pre production model, but never the less, all but as good as what we can expect come April.

I like my Ducatis, and the Hypermoto is I'm sure going to prove to be a great bike. That said, I think it's way over priced and a little short of the mark for Ducatis top of the range usual build quality.

There are poor design issues too, that would make me question how much of a fashion statement the Hypermotor really is.


Poor design


This type of downpipe clamping was troublesome for years on Honda C50 / 70 / 90 Step Thru's. Stuck right in the debris and weather thrown from the front tyre. Corrosion, snapped studs were rife on the Honda models. I don't see the Ducati fairing any better.

The oil pipes are not ideally placed if you were to consider a little off road riding too. Ditto the starter motor. A protective shield or plate of some design wouldn't have gone amiss.

Rocket
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Tunes
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Being a Buell addict and this being a Buell site, I could care less what Ducati does.
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The rear brake lever could have been so easily hinged. For this type of bike it's asking to be broken off. For £8000 I'd want the small details to make up for the big price.


broken off or hinged


Rocket
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Frame welds rather crude too.

These are from the sub frame.


poor welds


Rocket
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Plastic front brake pipes are a cheap touch too for a pricey motorcycle.


plastic brake pipes


Rocket
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Things are not so bad though. The 1098 is in my opinion going to attract customers who've never owned a Ducati previously. Particularly R1 owners me thinks!


1098


The 916 remains the best looking of all though!!!!


Rocket
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And if Ducati build quality is not good enough for you, there's no doubting this Ducati T Bob is the very best of the very best.

Every single item hand built except the fork internals and the engine internals. Everything else, including wheels and brake discs were made by the owner, or in some way altered or modified, like the engine cases.

Stunning beyond belief in the flesh.


T Bob


Pictures don't do the T Bob justice. They make it look more show rather than go. Stood next to it it does look very usable and a lot less just show.

Rocket
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket, with regards to your review of the Hyper-Moto, you sure have an eye for detail!

Oh and, Welcome back!
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Ducxl
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now..the 1098 is STUNNING....The watercooled 4v oversquare Testastretta is what I'M talkin' about
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I gotta moan about the 1098 too.

The fairing is styled very much like the current Moto GP bikes, which means it is damn near as far forward as the front of the wheel. To say Ducati were not thinking R1 or 'turning Japanese' would be an understatement. Has anyone noticed the 1098 headlights look like Firebolt ones?

The fairing is too Japanese for my tastes.

Tamburini wouldn't have allowed that.

Rocket
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Ducxl
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 06:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Japanese is good......Italian is still...well Italian manufacture.PLUS..160hp...And i love to be very far forward....What i like a lot about the 996
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thats a good price, if you are willing to have a heavier bike that makes less HP then an XB12.

Acutally, it's a lighter bike (at 385lb) that makes only 3 hp less than the Buell TT.

But the Buell is cheaper by about $1200. And less maintenance. But nowhere NEAR as sexy (IMHO).
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

looks like Ducatis is addressing price across the range -- the 1098 is a stunning piece of work, no matter what

factoring in the price, it's amazing

now, where can a fella of a certain age get a new set of knees at a Badweb discount?

;-}
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Mike748
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Video of Hypermotard in production.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unMTsfa9Of8
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Three less hp at the crank... but I have a sneaking suspicion a higher percentage of that will get to the rear wheel than in the Buell. Just a feeling that I have, but there do seem to be tremendous hp losses between the crank and rear wheel in modern Buells. I'm at a loss to know why, but the magazines routinely measure only 82hp at the rear wheels of the XB12 bikes.
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Jimidan
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket sez:

This type of downpipe clamping was troublesome for years on Honda C50 / 70 / 90 Step Thru's. Stuck right in the debris and weather thrown from the front tyre. Corrosion, snapped studs were rife on the Honda models. I don't see the Ducati fairing any better.

The bronze nuts on the Ducatis' exhaust do not corrode so it is not as bad as you might think, unlike the Honda models which used steel nuts.

jimidan
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

now, where can a fella of a certain age get a new set of knees at a Badweb discount?

Not sure you'd need new knees with the motard. Now the 1098...that's another story: )
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Jayvee
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

bronze nuts...that's what I need
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You could also get a fleet of mini choppers, or half a dozen Yugo's. But who really wants either of those ?
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber,

www.BadKneedBikers.com ? : ]

Ask for "Dr. Henrik."
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree with you Rocket... And about the 916 being the best looking yet... Agree there as well : ).
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Xbrad9r
Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

when i see threads like this one, it makes me want to join a Corvette site and then start threads like this one about how much i like the new mustangs or chargers or etc and see how they react

for the cost of a Buell XB12...you can actually buy one and be a great addition to this site for Buell enthusiasts

i think the title of the thread is actually what is so rotten about it...like you are inferring why would someone actually buy the Buell...maybe i am taking it wrong.
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