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Buell12hundo
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

now this is in no way fact but more of a guess.....the new bike that is coming out will be a xb12rst, the new look and more sleek body of the 2007 firebolt but the frame of the long with hard bags. We need a
sport tour

later ty
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Uly fits that bill quite nicely from what I hear... And you can take shortcuts no less : ).

I think we'll see the new frame on the "R" though... among a few other things that should be fun to play with ;).
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Aldaytona
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I heard from an unofficial source they are going to introduce the all new M3.
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Chasespeed
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I heard from an unofficial source they are going to introduce the all new M3.


: ) : )}
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Light_keeper
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've heard a lot of things. Mostly wishes. The only thing I know to be true is that we will all know in July. Maybe there will be some suprises maybe revolations. But it will be just like waiting for christmas.
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Sparky
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are Juicy Rumors in print. Anybody read the Eurofile article in May Cycle News?

Cathcart inplies that it's been Erik's dream to top off his sportbikes with a full-on liquid cooled V-twin Superbike as a modern update to Harley's VR1000, a 60 degree V-twin. He also implies that other sources say Buell has been working on this bike for two years and that it will debut in 2007, and with privateer versions too.

Of course he is not saying who the sources are of the rumors or the engines but he's implying it's not KTM, Rotax or Ducati. So, who's left, HD?
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Metalstorm
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All I want to see is a Firebolt with a 1203cc or bigger engine that is square or over square.

I want the power of the 12 with the smoothness of the 9.

Everything else about the bike is damn near perfect in my opinion.
This is the earliest I've ever been late!
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll be happy with whatever they come up with. Unless its another tourer.

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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I heard that Eric decided to let the OCC crew redesign the entire product line.

think Long forks, and lots of bolt on chrome!


If you believe that I have this bridge I need to sell....cheap!
I'd rather sweat than bleed, wouldn't you?
White is definitely the FASTEST color Buell.
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Dako
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I heard that Eric decided to let the OCC crew redesign the entire product line.

SWEET!!!! I'm gonna drop a down payment to reserve one first thing Tuesday!!!! Oh yeah, and how much for the bridge? I could always use another bridge! I built my house on one, every now and then I run outside and yell at everyone to get the hell outa my driveway!

My Mechanical Ingenuity is Inversely Proportionate to the Amount of Money in my Pocket!
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Cochise
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Who's this eriC guy?
www.americanthunderbike.org
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Bugman
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Speculation is more like it.
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Seth
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"...Who's this eriC guy?..."

I was waiting for that one
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Doh!
oops my bad I shall mentally smack myself silly as penance...

oh wait I'm already there!



That's EriK...EriK...EriK...EriK
BDWD......... Biker Dads With Daughters est.2006
defending our sweet little girls from those bad bad boys. You're not one of THEM are you?
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 07:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Of course he is not saying who the sources are of the rumors or the engines but he's implying it's not KTM, Rotax or Ducati. So, who's left, HD?

Here is a thought to ponder. Swedish firm Highland build a 950cc V-Twin engine for their own Supermoto/big traillie bikes. A recent interview with the company president revealed that they plan to increase engine manufacturing output to 10,000 units per year in order to supply other motorcycle manufacturers with an 'off the peg' 120bhp motor. They even hinted that there is a large manufacturer ready and waiting to fit the motor in their range.

The Highland engine has been developed over a number of years, and initially started as two Husaberg engines mated together. The motor is incredibly light and small for a 60 degree 950 water cooled V-Twin and has enormous potential. As an example, their own 950 Supermotard weighs in at just 166kg in road trim (approx 360 lbs!).








http://www.highland.se/index.aspx
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Rubberdown
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 07:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trojan, that's very interesting! Send more news.
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If history is to repeat itself as it often does. Buell won't be using that engine. Buell (or Harley-Davidson) "missed the boat" when they passed the opportunity to buy Cannondale a few years ago.

I for one was really hoping H-D or Buell would have bought them out.
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Danny_h__jesternut
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Short stroke 1350 RR motor, easy 120 hp, 100 ft lb torque, in a long frame,full faring.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great idea Matt!!

Doesn't look like it is going to happen this Juy.

Here is an interesting email exchange I just had with Highland.



-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: Jonathan Morse
Skickat: den 29 maj 2006 13:55
Till:
Ämne: Buell

Hello,
Are you going to be supplying V Twin engines to Buell?
Thank you
Jonathan Morse
Sag Harbor, NY
USA

No, as far as I know there has never been any serios discussions about that.
However; it would be quite a bike.

Lillen
R&D
Highland Motors.
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What a shame. I wonder who the 'customer' will be for the motor then?
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S1eric
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Jesternut,
That was my prediction last year. Well with out the full fairing.


I`m still waiting.

S1EriC
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Outrider
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Time will tell...

Just remember HDI, HD, BMC and all their vendors are sworn to silence.
Life's a roller coaster. Enjoy the ride!
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Trojan, Bimota would probably be high on the list of probable customers.

If they are still solvent this week.
BDWD......... Biker Dads With Daughters est.2006
defending our sweet little girls from those bad bad boys. You're not one of THEM are you?
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Chasespeed
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You kow though, that down draft twin would fit nicely in the XB chassis....60*, 120 BHP, smoothER power....

Heh, would be nice to dream...

}I want the power of the 12 with the smoothness of the 9.


BTW Nope, I prefer the rough, RAW feeling of a 1203...

}
Chase

F*ck'em if they can't take a joke.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

With the 12S I agree 100%. That RAW feeling fits it perfectly. I even prefer the older style straight cut gear tranny.

Only on the Firebolt do I want the smoothness of the 9.
This is the earliest I've ever been late!
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Chasespeed
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, I havent had a chanec to ride the 'Bolt, but, I am just curious, NOT being a troll... do you feel it would make a difference? OR, Comfort, just wondering...

I rode my X1 with Cafe style bars for a while, long trips adn all...and never did the vibes caused by the older style 1203, cause me any grief...

So, its more a curiousity thing, that anything else...
Chase

F*ck'em if they can't take a joke.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It could just be me & I'll admit that I havn't had much time on a Bolt but the riding style seems different for each.

Perhaps it's just a matter of perspective for me.

I see the 12S as a bad to the bone hooligan machine that likes to get down & dirty. She's like a diamond in the rough. I love that she's grunty & shakey cause she's a wild child. She wants to be tossed around. She gets off on it. She's a corner muncher!

Where as the Bolt is long, sleek & sexy. She seem's a little more up town. She hangs with the other crowd but does it with more class. She carves corners with a surgeon's precision & that makes me think smoother would be better.
This is the earliest I've ever been late!
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Chasespeed
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Huh, funny thing is, XBs use the same geometry, regarless of the style, EXCEPT the 12X an the 12Ss those are 2 inches LONGER....

I am pretty sure about the above statement..gonna look it up, to be sure...

But, I agree with you there, totally, the XB_r does seem a littl emore classy..BUT, you cant get much more raw, than a tuber : )



XB_R
Rake
Steering Head 21
Fork Angle 21
Trail 3.3 in
Wheelbase 51.9 in

XB_S
Rake
Steering Head 21
Fork Angle 21
Trail 3.3 in
Wheelbase 51.9 in


Yep, teh same}


(Message edited by chasespeed on May 29, 2006)
Chase

F*ck'em if they can't take a joke.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The geometry is the same but the ergos are way different. The tucked in position with low clip on narrow bars makes the R handle (or maybe only feel) different than the upright wide bar S

Wouldn't it be cool if they came out with a new Tuber for '07?

A limited edition Retro Tuber. All the old school class with the FI & ZTL brakes of the XB.

I got to ride Bigblock's '00 M2 a couple times & that thing rocks! He changed the suspension, added cams & a power slide & holy shite does that thing pull and handle!
This is the earliest I've ever been late!
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you cant get much more raw, than a tuber

Raw, nekid, loud, and FUN!

the Xb bikes feel taller to me. like I'm on top of them

I wonder if you can get that highland motor crated with radiator and electrics.}
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